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Hi guys,
Can you please give a rough estimates if I was to do a house up in general - painting, plastering, rewiring, new kitchen, new windows, new boiler/GCH, etc?
House size 2-3 bedroom.
Of course I know this will vastly vary but I am looking at rough ball park figures as I am thinking of investing in the property trade and looking at if it's worth flipping properties and what sort of margins I could gain if any.
Thanks
 
Piece of string question..... I was looking at renovating a 3 bed Victorian property total gutting out job and from initial quotes I think it would have been around 70k
 
Probally 10K-20K I would imagine.

I spent 10K doing my house last year and that was new wallpaper in all rooms, replaster of the bathroom/toilet, new carpets upstairs bedrooms, lounge, had a new RCD box fitted.

Kimbie
 
I think £900, if you buy everything you need for £900.

It could be £100000 if you buy everything you need for £100000.

Or any other amount really.
 
my brother in law did this a number of times in the 90`s buying house that some old lady had died in and completely gutting the house after buying it rather cheap. A general clean up of a house doesnt take much more time then money. I think at the time the least amount of money my brother in law spent on a property was £2000 and that was for new carpets throughout the house, I believe he made about £30,000 on that house in the space of three weeks. But to answer the OP if you are doing it as cheap as chips then yes around 2k-3k for a re-wire. Painting and plastering is rather cheap around the £100 a day mark for that kind of work depends on the number of rooms you have to decorate as to what it costs. Around 5k for a new kitchen and then 1.5k for a new boiler going up to about 3k if you want new rads as well. New windows depends on how many you need really couldnt tell you a figure on that. Having talked to my brother in law at length about this though its just about making a property presentable, he has purchased many properties that are old and run down and just given them a lick of paint and new carpets and they have sold for a nice profit the next day. On some of the more expensive projects he has even hired in furniture to `dress` the house so its more saleable.
 
thanks guys. the general concensus seems to be about the 30k mark I think give or take.
I know this question was like how long's a piece of string but it was to get a rough idea.
 
It might sound daft but watch some "Homes under the Hammer" and have a look how much they spend to what they get out of it.
 
I’ve just finished two properties, both bought at auction.

2 bed Ground floor flat, gutting and renovating, cost 24K

2 bed house, gutting and renovating, cost 27K

Both were done in high standard and both sold straight way after going back on the market.

To helps save costs, register as trade with Wickes(think they done away with it now), Tile giant etc. You get a nice discount if you do.

Oh yes, try do as much as you can too. Dont pay builders to strip wall paper, utter waste of money.
 
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It might sound daft but watch some "Homes under the Hammer" and have a look how much they spend to what they get out of it.

It's a good show, pay particular attention to how much they expect it to cost and how much it ends up costing. The same with time scales.

There was one the other day where the property collapsed when they took the roof off. At the point where they'd expected to have finished the project they'd got an empty plot. Because the property was listed they ended up rebuilding it pretty much how it had been.

In the end spend over 2 years to get a property that was worth £20k less then it had cost them.
 
I need a section of ceiling replaced after water damage. Would this be a relatively straightforward job that a friend and I could do? Just a case of removing the old plasterboard, and attaching new board and fill the joints with putty? I'd probably then get a plasterer in to skim it as I've never plastered. Just trying to save some money. I also need one wall replastered, but again I think I'll just get a professional to do that.
 
I need a section of ceiling replaced after water damage. Would this be a relatively straightforward job that a friend and I could do? Just a case of removing the old plasterboard, and attaching new board and fill the joints with putty? I'd probably then get a plasterer in to skim it as I've never plastered. Just trying to save some money. I also need one wall replastered, but again I think I'll just get a professional to do that.

yeap, easy to do to be honest, just rip out and refit and then re-board it and get someone in to skim it.
 
It's worth learning some of these trades yourself to save money, just factor in that it will take you longer to complete than a professional.

Plastering is always better done by a pro.
Electrical/Gas work will need to be signed off anyway which limits some aspects.
All builders are crap.
 
It entirely depends on what you can do, and what you want to do.

If you pick up a run down house in a road where all other houses sell for 200k, and you get it for 150k. If it needs 50k of work, and you pay people to do it, you'll make very little, if it needs 50k or work, but 80% of it is done by you, and you only pay tradesman to do 10k or work, then you can make money, but ultimately a pretty large portion of the profits made by people flipping houses by buying run down, renovating and selling as finished is made by people working. Its a second job, and often hard work, plenty of people do a 9-5, then go and spend 6-12 at the house, and all weekend, for 3 months before they're finished, then make 10-20k.

It's a good second job, or a good full time job. The guys who tend to make a profit and NOT do the work themselves but pay for it usually make the money up in margins and volume. IE someone who does this full time and has a team of builders, so rather than wait weeks while paying a mortgage, he's got a full team. He buys a house, and has the guys there the next day. You have a couple labourers who clean up, while his electrician/plumber is working on another house, while the plasterer/painter/joiner is finishing off a 3rd house. Rotating guys, keeping every job going without any downtime, paying your own team and wasting no hours saves tonnes of cash and having several houses on the go at once means less overall profit per house, more houses.


Decide what you can put in before you go looking, be careful when you buy, auctions are crazy popular for the people that do this as auction is where a lot of the "worst" houses go which need the most work and have the most profit potential. If you overpay... you'll work hard for months on end and break even if you're lucky.


Make sure you have the money to pay for work, make sure you've found people who can do the work you need, or that you can do the work. A lot of where peoples profits go is having a mortgage, paying monthly while work drags on. You think it will only take 3 weeks, or 2 months, and hope it will sell within a month and only pay a few thou on a mortgage, but because you didn't find a builder first, had to look around for an electrician, had to wait for guy one to finish before calling in guy two and guy one took ages, you end up spending 6 months, spending 10k more on the mortgage than you wanted, and the profits disappear.

If you don't know buildings that well, take someone with you, a friend whose a builder(who won't see a HUGE problem, not tell you, then "find out" after you've bought that it needs a really expensive amount of work done that you'll ask him to do :p ), structural engineer, someone who can give a very good idea of the work doing, and spot major major issues before you buy.
 
Its hard to judge as a ball park figure as each area puts a different value on the cost of the work to be done (Especially when you have to use tradesmen).

A friend of mine is a builder here in Bath but sometimes takes work in and around London working with a friend of his that lives out that way. for a job that would be billed at £20k here in Bath they would be charging £70k in London! no difference in cost of materials just purely make up because of where the work will take place!
 
Hard to say but ball park number for an average size house.

rewiring - 3k

new kitchen 5 to 10k
new windows 5k
new boiler/GCH £3k
 
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