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Ok, ill make this very short.

Im looking at things and how they have been for the past year and when it comes to games, the PC has lost out... MASSIVELY.

Now, with the release of Vista and DX10 and all that, I can only see 2 things are about to happen.

1 - MS are wasting their time and our money hoping to sell off VISTA as a gamers O/S

2 - The PC is set to take the reign on Gaming again.

If consoles are going to take hold more and more, then the PC as a gaming platform is going to die ... Quite radiply I recon.

In which case, what reason is there for sticking with Windows? Why not go to Linux ( Which is free! )

Anyone have any additions or thoughts on this?
 
IMO, the PC hasn't lost out, sure, there are some driver problems, game errors etc. but that what you have to put up with when you have a jack of all trades.

Past years has been my best for gaming on the pc yet, with games set to get even better (alan wake, crysis) along with huge boosts to visuals, its another one up for computers over consoles.

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FatRakoon said:
Ok, ill make this very short.

Im looking at things and how they have been for the past year and when it comes to games, the PC has lost out... MASSIVELY.



Anyone have any additions or thoughts on this?
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as per the other threads on this, there are no games on the current consoles that beat BF2 BF2142 MMORPG etc etc

but your entitled to your opinion, even if its wrong
 
lay-z-boy said:
IMO, the PC hasn't lost out, sure, there are some driver problems, game errors etc. but that what you have to put up with when you have a jack of all trades.

Past years has been my best for gaming on the pc yet, with games set to get even better (alan wake, crysis) along with huge boosts to visuals, its another one up for computers over consoles.

:)
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I certainly hope so.


badgermonkey said:
Another PC gaming is going to die thread?

Can people please stop posting these? :(
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badgermonkey said:
Because half my games don't work on it :p
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I thought you wanted people to stop posting these, and yet, here you are replying to it??

AS for half your games dont work, this is changing... Many games do in fact run under Linux, and surprisingly enough, most of them run better under Linux than Windows!!!

eekfek said:
as per the other threads on this, there are no games on the current consoles that beat BF2 BF2142 MMORPG etc etc

but your entitled to your opinion, even if its wrong
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Ok, so you have named a small number of games, but from what I see, is that pretty much every game that comes out on the PC, also comes out on console, but its not the other way round... It seems to me that more games come out on consoles than on a PC, and many games that come out as v2 etc of a particular game, even if they do a v1 on the PC they often dont bother with v2 etc.

Oh, and by the way... Its not my opinion.

I am up for the PC and have no intention of going to console, even though my kids have all of them and loads of games too, they are not for me.
 
Like always the consoles will stay in there original format whislt PC's will develop into next gen ultimate gaming machines.
It is and has been the way since baby jesus was born and if it changed he would cry.
The public love new things not year old things or dated things, Pc's give you this in abundance and at an affordable rate by picking which bits you upgrade.
As gaming grows into the number one hobby/past time over the next five years it will be PC's that lead the way and cut new ground for the consoles to follow.

My opinon not an invite for the fanboys to attack.
 
The beauty of PC gaming is the user driven content, mods, tweaks, add-ons, player created games etc

Plus, if it wasnt for the PC then consoles wouldnt have anyone to follow :D

PCs in general always take for first leap forward, consoles are always bringing up the rear and they do it superbly. Optimized code and decent tested hardware.

Consoles are the ultimate in plug'n'play and PCs will always be for those that like full control.

As for windows, i has a massive marlet share so games are produced for it. I would love to see Linux get a 50% share of the market, and they may do it, but with many developers making sure that games can run on either OS it isnt that much of an issue anymore. As i understand it, Vista is supposed to be coming along with DX10 to standardise the whole industry, or at least that is its aim. Surely such a move will make it even easier for the Linux developers.

Although i would love to see more standardisation of consoles with PCs making it easier to code the same game for all platforms and allowing some cool multiplayer action.
 
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PC gaming will never die, although I have to admit that since getting my 360 my PC hasnt been touched gaming wise. The PC however had the beauty of all of the mods etc that you dont get on a console, it also has a lot of smaller titles that are being made by a few people (eg Live for Speed) meaning there is a wider range of games.

PC gaming and console gaming really should not be compared as they are 2 totally different experiences. Consoles have the plug and play capability, whereas a PC has the expandability in the way of mods etc.

PC gaming might quieten off, but itll never die.
 
Cool posts you guys.

Im not entirely sure about DX10 standardising the industry and it benefiting Linux developers as Linux does not do DirectX at all... Just GL... Which, IMO is better than DirectX in both looks and performance. This no doubt is changing.

Linux games @ 50% ? that would be nice, but doubtful in the forseable future.

The thing is, that if oyu go into any games shop, and have a look around, what do you see?

I see about 30 rows of games for PlayStation, 30 for XBOX, 30 for Nintendo, oh, and the PC games are on the counter on that little carousel.

Surely you have seen that where you are?
 
FatRakoon said:
Cool posts you guys.

Im not entirely sure about DX10 standardising the industry and it benefiting Linux developers as Linux does not do DirectX at all... Just GL... Which, IMO is better than DirectX in both looks and performance. This no doubt is changing.

Linux games @ 50% ? that would be nice, but doubtful in the forseable future.

The thing is, that if oyu go into any games shop, and have a look around, what do you see?

I see about 30 rows of games for PlayStation, 30 for XBOX, 30 for Nintendo, oh, and the PC games are on the counter on that little carousel.

Surely you have seen that where you are?
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Go online and click a few buttons; sorted.
 
Stellios said:
PC gaming will never die, although I have to admit that since getting my 360 my PC hasnt been touched gaming wise.
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I wonder how many other have said that and will say that.

Stellios said:
PC gaming might quieten off, but itll never die.
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Unless it quietens off because everybody is also no longer touching their PC since they got their console.

No game sales = no development.

True though isnt it?
 
@ Fatracoon
Yes i have seen that but most of my current PC games were got online through downloaders etc. ( legally i should add )
PC gamers are just way ahead on accepting online purchases so there really is no need for shop sold games most of the time.
 
FatRakoon said:
Im not entirely sure about DX10 standardising the industry and it benefiting Linux developers as Linux does not do DirectX at all... Just GL... Which, IMO is better than DirectX in both looks and performance. This no doubt is changing.
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One of the main aims of vista is to standardise the industry, (ie drviers etc), im aware that Linux doesnt use DX but my point was that as windows development becomes more drawn together that it is going to make it easier regarding emulation and getting windows games to run on Linux.

Or at least that is what im hoping for :D its the main reason ive never really got into linux.
 
So with DX10 and Vista, is it looking like the future of gaming is going to allow easier console ports to the PC? Not always a good idea but sometimes you get some decent ports.

Also since moving to uni i've played consoles round at friends flats like the Wii and 360. But there just seems to be something missing, I can't sit down and chill through a game and get involved in one compared to playing a Civilization series game.

But I guess it all depends what games your into.

I'm sure the reason you see small sections of games in high streets shops is because most PC gamers are a lot of internet/tech savvy and have no problems with buying games online or using the likes of Steam.
 
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I suppose its true with buying them online.

Buying too much stuff online has a far greater threat than just games though, but thats another thread.

I also find it good ( for me ) that all the games I care about actually install in Linux just fine... Doom, Quake, UnReal Tournament etc.

I do wish NFS run under it though.

Other games I dont really care at all about... Not really.

Its also cost too... Its been said many many times about console v PC games on the market... Console games tend to hold their value while PC games value drops... Well, this is not quite true.

I have over 200 PS/2 Games, about 60 maybe 70 XBOX ( NOT 360 ) Games and easily over 300 PS1 games in my arsenal ( Well, the kids do anyway ) and they are all legit ones, no copies, and I have never paid over a fiver for any one of those games... Most have been £2 or at best 2 for a fiver, and these include such games as NFS:MW, NFSU2, UnReal Tournament and Chapionship, so some good titles... Some naff ones too of course.

So, they dont hold their value as much as people seem to think.

And I suppose when it comes to it, as said earlier, a PC is a jack of all trades, while a console is only a console and maybe a DVD/CD Player too, but thats all.
 
whilst linux is getting better, at the end of the day, ive felt, that linux overcomplicates PC usage, windows doesnt

linux needs to lose its "geek factor" and its image of over complexity for it to become a major contender in the OS market, till then, its just a geeks toy OS

as for consoles over taking pcs, it happens at the start of the newest batch of consoles, its a rush for something "new", then people get bored, and go to playing the same games on their pcs with nice new mods/texture packs/ai tweaks, etc etc. going back to their consoles for the "exclusive" titles
 
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whilst linux is getting better, at the end of the day, ive felt, that linux overcomplicates PC usage, windows doesnt

linux needs to lose its "geek factor" and its image of over complexity for it to become a major contender in the OS market, till then, its just a geeks toy OS

as for consoles over taking pcs, it happens at the start of the newest batch of consoles, its a rush for something "new", then people get bored, and go to playing the same games on their pcs with nice new mods/texture packs/ai tweaks, etc etc. going back to their consoles for the "exclusive" titles
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Geeks toy O/S?

While I think that is proof that you obviously have no real experience of Linux, I do see EXACTLY where you are coming from with that statement too!!!

It does need to lose a lot of its "Geek Elite-ism" I can accept that. and every new version of it that comes out, I see its losing it more and more and this is good.

Then again, my parents completely and utterly dont have a single clue when it comes to switching a PC on never mind using it, and some time ago, I left a SuSE LIVE CD in their PC and it wasnt until almost 2 weeks later when I got a phonecall from my father askign me how can he change the windows style back to Classic... The thing is, that he used it for well over a week thinking that I had just changed the skin??? - that to me tells me that linux is nowhere near as "Geeky" as it used to be, because they still read their EMails, browsed for their por.. erm, information, whatever. Ahem.

And this is going back to SuSE 7.2 so thats a fair while now and Linux has changed a lot since then.

Lets be honest here, but much of the Geeky-ness comes from setting it up... Once its setup, where is the geeky-needs there? It runs and runs and... Well, once its up and running, its just like Windows in many things.
 
There is no hope in hell that DX will ever go on (or be successfully emulated on) Linux, if M$ have anything to do with it.

Until game developers move away from proprietary platforms and embrace OpenGL, Linux will always have a limited gaming ability. The sad thing is that the open source nature of OpenGL (and Linux TBH) is its major advantage and its main downfall...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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