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Future-proofing your GPU.

TNA said:
It was very safe on my wallet at £95.

I get the feeling it won't be so safe next gen :cry:
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It depends on what the RTX5070 has in terms of hardware. If its 12GB you will be probably fine for a while. If its 12GB and has that neural compression technology,Nvidia is working on and its locked to the RTX5000 series,or ships with more VRAM,then you might have to upgrade. Then the other issue is what type of CPU and RAM requirements we might need in some of these future games,especially since DDR5 might also be needed.

Personally,looking at **** UE5 seems to do so far,I think I am just going to wait and see what it really needs and move on from there.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I saw that misprice(it happened once before),had the card in my basket both times and realised I could just turn down some settings and spend zero pounds. I have never spent £600 on a card,and it just shows how these companies have made £600 seem like its a cheap price when really it isn't for an average gamer like me.
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It was £578 and £575 after my cashback. End of the day I just look at it as how much will it cost after I sell what I have and is that worth it for me.

Will I get £95 worth of joy in the 12-18 months until next gen is out? Between how much better DLSS 3 turned out to be and this thread I think honestly have already got my moneys worth :D
 
TNA said:
It was £578 and £575 after my cashback. End of the day I just look at it as how much will it cost after I sell what I have and is that worth it for me.

Will I get £95 worth of joy in the 12-18 months until next gen is out? Between how much better DLSS 3 turned out to be and this thread I think honestly have already got my moneys worth :D
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If I was on an RTX3080TI myself which had £500 of value,I would have done the same. Except,I would have probably had to pony up around £350 because I have a plebs card,so its not such a deal! :cry:

The equivalent would be an RTX4070 for closer to £350,which I certainly would buy at that price and what it really should have cost(like the RX7800XT from day one). The RTX4070TI misprice is what it should have cost from launch,because even the RTX3070TI was sub £600 too.

But that is the problem,most of my mates buy cards in the same price range as me,so it either means:
1.)Getting a sidegrade for similar money
2.)Pony up £100s more than what we normally spend(even if we sell our old cards)

At this point,just easier(and cheaper to turn some settings down) - I think unless I find a deal which fits what I want to spend,then I am sure I can manage. Plus we all know Nvidia/AMD will debut new tech which only works with the new cards,so I might as well wait and get a big upgrade with all the new tech. I also need to upgrade the CPU side of things too(still stuck on PCI-E 3.0,etc due to being on a B450 mini-ITX motherboard).
 
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TNA said:
Quick question @Joxeon as it has been a long time since I sold my 3080.

As you have a 4K monitor and primarily game 4K native. How has 10GB Vram been holding up?
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Fine, if anything it’s the raw performance that is more of a struggle these days which is to expected of a 3+ year old card now, take Ark Ascended where even the 4090 is only getting 40fps at 4k with all settings maxed out.
 
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Joxeon said:
Fine, if anything it’s the raw performance that is more of a struggle these days which is to expected of a 3+ year old card now, take Ark Ascended where even the 4090 is only getting 40fps at 4k with all settings maxed out.
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Good to know. If you have been fine at 4K with 10GB I will be more than ok with 12GB on 3440x1440 :D

Yeah. I have always said grunt will be the main issue, not vram. But some did not believe it.
 
cyclonus10 said:
As long as you have a GPU 1-2 generations ahead of whatever the latest gfx card is in the current gen of consoles you should be fine, gaming wise at least.

PS5/XSX running a 6700/XT as it stands. :)
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Yup good advice. If it's two generations ahead, even just a mid range card will gaurantee you can play all the games of the generation and have decent performance. So like a 8700xt should be really great for the rest of the console generation and even if the current consoles ever get a "Pro" version, the 8700xt will still be just as fast as them
 
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Grim5 said:
Yup good advice. If it's two generations ahead, even just a mid range card will gaurantee you can play all the games of the generation and have decent performance. So like a 8700xt should be really great for the rest of the console generation and even if the current consoles ever get a "Pro" version, the 8700xt will still be just as fast as them
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The problem is gpu price performance sucks.

What GPU can you get in the latest gen from AMD or Nvidia for under £380 that will outperform a 3 year old console by a decent margin?
 
CashmereThoughts said:
First and foremost, excuse any technical naivety on my part, and forgive me if this question seems a bit silly or if there's already a thread discussing this.

However, I wanted to ask for your thoughts on what you look for when buying a new graphics card. Is it the hardware, brand recognition/trustworthiness, the build, or cooling and thermals?

How much of a decision-making do innovative technologies like rendering techniques such as FSR and DLSS factor into your purchasing decision?

Regarding the software side of things and firmware updates, are you conscious of how each "team" performs, and how much of a factor is that in your decision?

These are some of the first things that I thought of; however, I'm sure there will be many who are able to come up with some very pertinent, nuanced, and insightful points to add to this discussion.

I invite you to post some of your thoughts, or to alternatively :)cry:) ridicule me for being silly inquiring about this, as on the face of it, the answer is self-evident: get the best GPU you can get at the time.
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The best future proofing method I’ve found is to buy a midrange GPU on heavy discount once every couple years.

The worst “future proofing” method I’ve found is buying the most expensive GPU once every 5+ years.

Tech improves all the time (as has been pointed out).

When you buy that 4090 on release day, Nvidia has already lined up the 5090 and 6090 with planned performance improvement targets (the products would probably be still in testing and development but they always have a long term release plan as that’s how companies survive)
 
Joxeon said:
The problem is gpu price performance sucks.

What GPU can you get in the latest gen from AMD or Nvidia for under £380 that will outperform a 3 year old console by a decent margin?
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6700xt
you didnt say what is a decent margin.

The cost for making gpus has gone up both in time dev and die prices.
and a console is stuck with the way its built

a PC owner upgrades when the hardware isnt giving enough.
its why when I bought a 4k oled due to superb price deal waited for BF to upgrade to a 6950xt
doubled my fps in 4k
good luck with a console to do that
 
RBImGuy said:
6700xt
you didnt say what is a decent margin.

The cost for making gpus has gone up both in time dev and die prices.
and a console is stuck with the way its built

a PC owner upgrades when the hardware isnt giving enough.
its why when I bought a 4k oled due to superb price deal waited for BF to upgrade to a 6950xt
doubled my fps in 4k
good luck with a console to do that
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6700XT isn't current gen though.
Joxeon said:
What GPU can you get in the latest gen from AMD or Nvidia for under £380 that will outperform a 3 year old console by a decent margin?
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JollyJamma said:
The best future proofing method I’ve found is to buy a midrange GPU on heavy discount once every couple years.

The worst “future proofing” method I’ve found is buying the most expensive GPU once every 5+ years.

Tech improves all the time (as has been pointed out).

When you buy that 4090 on release day, Nvidia has already lined up the 5090 and 6090 with planned performance improvement targets (the products would probably be still in testing and development but they always have a long term release plan as that’s how companies survive)
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For me it is just waiting for opportunities that present themselves and pouncing on them. They almost always come up every gen.

Did not think it would this gen and I was not particularly interested in ada. But here we are and I am happy the way it worked out :D
 
Joxeon said:
6700XT isn't current gen though.
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I don’t think you will ever find a gpu released now or in the future that will match the price/performance you value dearly that is embodied in your 3080 FE.

Alas that 3080 will run out of vram and grunt at some point perhaps in 2 years (meaning you got 5 years out of it) and you will have to dip your toes into the market- I’m not sure you will be as happy as you have been as you will have to spend more to get less gpu improvement :rolleyes:
 
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GhostDog1981 said:
I don’t think you will ever find a gpu released now or in the future that will match the price/performance you value dearly that is embodied in your 3080 FE.

Alas that 3080 will run out of vram and grunt at some point perhaps in 2 years (meaning you got 5 years out of it) and you will have to dip your toes into the market- I’m not sure you will be as happy as you have been as you will have to spend more to get less gpu improvement :rolleyes:
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Not even talking about a 3080 though, the question was what new gen GPU from AMD or Nvidia can you buy for £380 that is noticeably better than a console.
 
Good luck with that.

Aside from PC being upgradable, mix/n/match if you like, it's a much more open platform, aside from maybe, Mac OS, even windows machines can be hardware tailored to a specific task and budget, A PC can be a fully fledged work/office production machine, as well as a gaming machine and media hub, all in one box.

You can't carry the case, PSU, and maybe RAM over to your next xbox/PS5 in a few years, you just have to buy a new unit.
 
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Raelgun said:
Can we also talk about that the fact that the Xbox Series X has been on sale for around £360 here and there.

I'd imagine we see price cuts to it on a perma basis which makes it a really strong purchase.
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What for? This ain't the console forum. Who here who wanted a console and has not got one by now?

They could reduce it to £50 and I honestly would not buy one.
 
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