g20 trouble

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:02

Tom1138 said:
So was the smashing of buildings and protesters attacking the Police with large wooden poles out of order. By surrounding the RBS building you unlawfully restricted the movement of the workers in side who were doing a days work, not smacking the crap of a building...I don't call that a protest.

The workers were totally free to come out and would not have been harmed.

The single most dangerous thing out there today was the Police horses.

spp · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:02

Protesters... I wouldn't mind if the protest was peaceful (and it was in most places), but when idiots start smashing things up the whole protest loses credibility. Makes them all look like scum who like causing trouble. Police being heavy handed? tbh I would be surprised if they were given the way some people were behaving today. Protests may be legal, but assaulting police officers, and damaging property certainly aren't.

Luseac · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:03

Doran said:
The workers were totally free to come out and would not have been harmed.

Yes, you're quite right. I'm sure they weren't frightened of people smashing the windows, wearing hoodies and scarfs across their face at all. Infact it's a wonder they didn't invite you in for tea.

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:03

codec said:
fixed.

warned 5 days earlier yet, still went to protest. and they say ignorance is bliss

FALSE.

@if ®afiq · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:04

sid said:
It wasn't tbh,

It was just a few troublemakers being mobbed by people with cameras.

Exactly, the whole violence thing is being blown out of proportion.

It was a relatively sedate protest with more casual on lookers, photographers, and people unable to get back to work (like me) than actual protestors.

Azagoth · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:05

Doran said:
The workers were totally free to come out and would not have been harmed.

Are you the official spokesman and stating that in your official capacity, or are you just talking guff again?

CaptainComedy · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:07

Azagoth said:
guff again?

lul

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:08

Azagoth said:
Are you the official spokesman and stating that in your official capacity, or are you just talking guff again?

Why would anyone be harmed? Were you there? Probably not.

I was, and the atmosphere was positive and carnival like. It was a lovely and a nice day out.

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:08

And we're not like you authoritarian idiots who want everything to come out of an official receptacle to have any validity.

Azagoth · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:10

Doran said:
Why would anyone be harmed? Were you there? Probably not.

No I wasn't there, I had more important things to do like working. You see, it's a weekday and that means work.

m4cc45 · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:10

Lets face it.. everyone knew there was going to be trouble. The police knew it and so did the protesters. I agree it is only the minority but when you have idiots trying to get an armoured car kitted out with fake police uniforms into a town centre what do they expect other than to be arrested.

Anyone could be standing behind those windows - completly innocent people who are visiting the buildings or staff just tyring to make a living.

Absolutely disgusting behaviour and if people have to take a smackdown for chucking a stick in the polices face then so be it - I have no sympathy. Innocent then fair enough the people should be punished (i.e. police brutality against innocent people).

M.

Housey · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:12

I have been in the City most of the day and the Police have it pretty much covered from what I could see. I walked across the City for around 2 miles in between meetings and there were Police and Press photographers all over the place and lots of video cameras too. I was around the Bank of England and RBS and bar one or two idiots doing their 'thing' for the camera's it was pretty tame really, though I did find it funny how nervous some people were, at no time did I feel intimidated and I was fully suited and booted.

Suspect my pre-emptive action of smacking anyone with green hair worked well then!

Tom1138 · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:13

Doran said:
And we're not like you authoritarian idiots who want everything to come out of an official receptacle to have any validity.

You mean we're the sort of people who like to hear both sides of the story, not the one-sided story you peddle us with.

CaptainComedy · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:16

Doran said:
It was a lovely and a nice day out.

have you taken your medication? are you sure you was at the protest? since when was a protest classed as a "lovely and nice day out"?

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:16

Azagoth said:
No I wasn't there, I had more important things to do like working. You see, it's a weekday and that means work.

Not for those with a social conscience.

Energize · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:17

Shame there wasn't a proper riot against the authoritarian government, that would have been amusing.

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:18

codec said:
have you taken your medication? are you sure you was at the protest? since when was a protest classed as a "lovely and nice day out"?

Unity, comradery, music, dancing, laughs, a common cause. How is that not a lovely day out?

Hell on earth to me are Friday nights in pubs and clubs. Now that is not nice.

teaboy5 · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:21

Doran said:
Unity, comradery, music, dancing, laughs, a common cause. How is that not a lovely day out?

Hell on earth to me are Friday nights in pubs and clubs. Now that is not nice.

Why bother going out? The heads of state will do nothing buy laugh at you. You gained nothing but wasting your own time.

Sankari · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:26

Doran said:
The workers were totally free to come out and would not have been harmed.

LOL? I don't think you're in any position to give that assurance.

The RBS was empty anyway. They'd all been given the day off. They knew what was coming.

Doran · 1 Apr 2009 at 19:26

teaboy5 said:
Why bother going out? The heads of state will do nothing buy laugh at you. You gained nothing but wasting your own time.

My view is that any protect should start and only stop once whatever it is seeking to change stops.

As you imply, the state will just endure the day, and then move on.

I remember a few years ago when I went on the original stop the war march - if we had refused to leave the streets for days and weeks on end in our thousands, I think the govt would literally have had to pull out of Iraq.

Protests need to go on longer to be effective, so they force action from the top.