GA-EX58-UD5 Bios f10 using DVID Guide

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Right a big thanks to fornowagain for a quick reply about Dynamic Vcore(DVID) and how to set it up :).

Instructions -

With DVID, couple of things you need to start with.Vcore needed for your 100% loaded stable clock. Your cpu's default voltage, differs from chip to chip.

To get the first one check cpu-z under 100% load, use prime or linx etc. The second one is a little more involved, set the multi lower in the bios, way down (default cpu speeds). Set the vcore to normal. Reboot into windows, again check the actual vcore under load.

Now back in the bios (obviously put the multi back), leave/set the vcore to normal. In the advance settings set the
DVID offset number to the difference between the overclock vcore and the default vcore. e.g. on a 4Ghz clock D0. 1.2625-1.2125=0.05v.

Now go and check the 100% load value in windows is the same as the original overclock value. You could also try using the default Vcore displayed in the bios, but of course that takes no account of the vdrop+vdroop. Should work though (just note, default Vcore in bios can change with turbo mode on/off). You should now see the vcore changing with the load and drop even lower with speedstep.

Some other settings that seems to be successful with it. LLC enabled, disable C1E (stops MB buzzing apparently), enable all other energy features, "C3/C6/C7 State Support" etc. Power management profile within Windows set to high performance.

Right using me as an example -

NOTE - I7 920 > 4.0GHz > My Bios CPU Vcore = 1.28125v.

1. OVERCLOCK Under 100% load > CPU-Z = 1.248v.

2. The second one is a little more involved, set the multi lower in the bios, way down (default cpu speeds). Set the vcore to normal. Reboot into windows, again check the actual vcore under load.

My Default CPU Speed Under 100% LOAD > CPU-Z = 1.008v.

3. Difference between the overclock vcore - 1.248v and the default vcore - 1.008v -

1.248v - 1.008v = 0.024v - DIFFERENCE A.

Reboot and enter bios -

1. CPU MULTI BACK TO OVERCLOCK SETTING.

Go to > ADVANCED VOLTAGE CONTROL < ENTER.

CPU Vcore should be set to > NORMAL < TO ENABLE Dynamic Vcore(DVID)

NOTE MY - CPU VCORE---(MINE IS 1.25625V)----(NORMAL)

Dynamic Vcore(DVID)-----+0.00000-----(+0.00000v - enter difference)

You can check by using -

My Bios CPU Vcore = 1.28125v(adjusted for volt drop/stable setting for overclock) take away CPU VCORE---(MINE IS 1.25625V)----(NORMAL)

1.28125v - 1.25625V = 0.025v - DIFFERENCE B.

Compare 0.024v / DIFFERENCE A. to 0.02500v - DIFFERENCE B, note very close nothing in it
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Dynamic Vcore(DVID)-----+0.00000-----(+0.00000v -adjust difference to nearest setting mine was +0.02500v)

SAVE AND REBOOT INTO WINDOWS.

Power management profile within Windows set to high performance.

Well while writing this thread l've had CPU-Z / Real Temp running, normally when my room temp is approx 21'C, core temps reads 37'c to 41'c. Since enabling and setting up DVID.

My temps have dropped about 5'c,note the low core voltage / speed take alook at my screen shot. -

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Also ran Intelburntest 10 runs - high - 8threads, result passed just a quick test for stability.

Have not tried these settings "LLC enabled, disable C1E (stops MB buzzing apparently), enable all other energy features, "C3/C6/C7 State Support"

Cheers w3bbo :) -

Channel Interleave: Higher values divide memory blocks and spread contiguous portions of data across interleaved channels, thereby increasing potential read bandwidth as requests for data can be made to all interleaved channels in an overlapped manner. For benchmarking purposes when using three memory modules, a 4-way interleave may surpass the scoring performance of setting 6-way interleave depending on the benchmark and operating system used (32-bit vs. 64-bit). We did find however that a 6-way interleave was capable of a higher overall BCLK for Super PI 32M than using a 4-way interleave setting (unless of course you run single- or dual-channel and appropriate channel interleaving thus decreasing load upon the memory controller).

Rank Interleave: Interleaves physical ranks of memory so that a rank can be accessed while another is being refreshed. Performance gains again depend on the benchmark in question. For 24/7 systems using triple-channel memory configurations there is no advantage to setting this value below 4 while Channel Interleave should be left at 6 for best overall system performance.

Taken from XS.


Well folks l hope this guide helps you to set up Dynamic Vcore(DVID). As you can see by the results, your CPU is running even cooler got to be good. :cool:
 
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I'm not so sure about this idea, but thank you for the guide.

I suppose dynamic vcore, load line calibration, turbo speedstep, and whatever it is I've forgotten (such as the amd options...), are all an attempt to keep voltages low to save power and prolong chip life. It's hard to research the implications of using these online, as there's an awful lot of people arguing that their chip isn't dead yet so it must be fine and few people who seem to be researching it in detail.

I don't believe that overclocking to the edge of stability and then running 100% load for 90% of the time with these options on is a good plan, however for the vast majority of cases they make a great deal of sense. Does anyone have a source/means of testing what power saving these options actually achieve?

Interesting, semi-related reading here.
 
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Confusing guide.:confused:

For the limited benefits DVID offers i.e. a few less degrees or slightly lower voltages whilst at idle - I don't really think it is necessary. Sure, lower temps and volts can only be a good thing but for the amount of extra life-span (if anything) it will give your CPU, is not worth it. I'm not saying people shouldn't use it or that it is completely pointless but I think I can safely say that it will not make any tangible long-term differences whether you enable it or not.

Perhaps if people are planning to keep their CPU for 10 years or more, or are ultra-conscious about saving energy then enabling it might be relevant/worthwhile to consider using this function. The fact is though that most people will change or upgrade their CPU within 5 years or so, and during that time whether you have had DVID enabled or disabled will not have affected the performance of the chip. Similarly with energy-saving, the amount you save over the course of the chip's usage will be nominal.

It is just my opinion of course, but I won't be using it. This is something that motherboards should be doing automatically.
 
ejr22 said:
Confusing guide.:confused:

For the limited benefits DVID offers i.e. a few less degrees or slightly lower voltages whilst at idle - I don't really think it is necessary. Sure, lower temps and volts can only be a good thing but for the amount of extra life-span (if anything) it will give your CPU, is not worth it. I'm not saying people shouldn't use it or that it is completely pointless but I think I can safely say that it will not make any tangible long-term differences whether you enable it or not.

Perhaps if people are planning to keep their CPU for 10 years or more, or are ultra-conscious about saving energy then enabling it might be relevant/worthwhile to consider using this function. The fact is though that most people will change or upgrade their CPU within 5 years or so, and during that time whether you have had DVID enabled or disabled will not have affected the performance of the chip. Similarly with energy-saving, the amount you save over the course of the chip's usage will be nominal.

It is just my opinion of course, but I won't be using it. This is something that motherboards should be doing automatically.
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Completely agree my i7 920 at 4GHz idles at 35oC with HT on, thats under a megahalems with 2 apaches in push/pull. My core voltage is 1.275V and it never goes above 75oC when stressing, mid 50's when gaming. I always disable speed step and all other energy saving options in the BIOS, I just think it causes far too many instabilities especially when Ocing. The energy saved as well as lifespan is negligible in my opinion.

Just my two cents!
 
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It is just my opinion of course, but I won't be using it. This is something that motherboards should be doing automatically.
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You don't want to use this feature, yet you want motherboard manufacturers to force you to use it?

Motherboard manufacturers are welcome to ignore various parts of Intel's specifications if that's what the community seems to want, but they shouldn't force people into this.

@Jonny do you have any examples of instability arising as a consequence of these options? I'm convinced that Intel's turbo is causing me crashes, but I have no evidence of this.
 
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JonJ678 said:
@Jonny do you have any examples of instability arising as a consequence of these options? I'm convinced that Intel's turbo is causing me crashes, but I have no evidence of this.
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I use Intel's turbo on but my mobo locks it to 21, the i7's don't seem to like the 20 multi mine did'nt anyway so for 4GHz I go 191x21. Speed step and the others used to cause me problems on my old q6600/p35 setup when overclocking by constantly down clocking the uP, this would cause my system to hang! Now I never use it!
 
JonJ678 said:
You don't want to use this feature, yet you want motherboard manufacturers to force you to use it?
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I didn't say I want to be forced to use it - or any other energy saving setting for that matter - but considering the that governments of the world are intent on saving energy it stands to reason that they will enforce manufacturers (or reward those that do) to ensure that future products are designed with some form of function enabled as default.

Perhaps I should have said that this is something motherboards should be doing automatically if they think it is necessary.
 
Its drops the vcore depending on the cpu load. 100% load = 100% vcore. EIST (speedstep) drops the multiplier on usage as well.

Main advantage is if you leave it idling, downloading for instance, it reduces the power used and therefore temps. Doesn't effect the load temp.

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Sorry for the peeps who find it confusing, l should have said it lowers CPU Vcore at IDLE and so reduce's temps.

Right l've been using it since the 11/2/10, and set my Channel Interleaving at 6 and Rank Interleaving to 4 and have had no problems at all.

N0 - it do's not improve your overclock, but reducing CPU Vcore and Temps at idle must benifit the CPU in the long run.

YES - you do use less power but l was more interrested in the CPU running cooler even at IDLE.

Every CPU IS slightly different so will get different results using Dynamic Vcore(DVID) and also agree it should be a automatic feature included in the motherbroad Bios so you can use it if you want to or not.
 
DVID didn't work well for me, I get random freeze at idle with it enabled but under load I'm stable for hours and can pass prime and linx fine.
 
Sorry to hear that bolbnec, it ups your CPU Vcore back to your max setting when the CPU is working under load -

IE: My DVID IDLE CPU Vcore is 0.960v under load it goes back upto 1.248v.

The only thing l can suggest is go back over and recheck your results when working out your DVID Difference.
 
My multi go's down to 6 > CPU Vcore 0.960v due to DVID.

NOTE MY - I7 920 > 4.0GHz > My Bios CPU Vcore = 1.28125v.

1. OVERCLOCK 4GHZ Under 100% load > CPU-Z = 1.248v - DEFAULT SPEED Under 100% load > CPU-Z = 1.008V -

1.248v - 1.008v = 0.024v DVID difference

2. When you lowered your multi to default cpu speed was it 2.8GHz or 2.6GHz ?, and set yor CPU Vcore to normal > reboot into windows and note CPU VCORE while running CPU-Z.

OVERCLOCK Under 100% load > CPU-Z = ?v - DEFAULT SPEED Under 100% load > CPU-Z = ?v, that is your DVID difference.

Did you check it with the quick way?

MY quick check -

My Bios CPU Vcore = 1.28125v(adjusted for volt drop/stable setting for overclock) > take away > Bios CPU VCORE---(MINE IS 1.25625V)----(NORMAL) =0.025V DVID difference.

1.28125v - 1.25625V = 0.025v DVID difference.

Dynamic Vcore(DVID)-----+0.00000-----(+0.02500v) -adjust difference to nearest setting mine was +0.02500v in the bios.

Hope this is a bit easier to understand m8.
 
I didn't really tried this way, I just compare the vcore I get under load without DVID to my normal vcore and add the difference
My Normal Vcore is 1.26875v, I need 1.27500v (BIOS) with LLC1 which give me 1.248v idle/load in CPU-Z, so I set my vcore to normal and then substract 1.27500 - 1.26875 and add 0.00625 in DVID

Can you please fill this template with your settings?

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[U][Size=5][B]GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7[/B][/Size][/U]
[B][U]MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)[/U][/B][U][/U]
[B]Advanced CPU Features {Press Enter][/B]
CPU Clock Ratio............................:
CPU Frequency .....(Ghz)...................:
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................:
CPU Cores Enabled..........................:
CPU Multi Threading........................:
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)....................:
C3/C6/C7 State Support.....................:
CPU Thermal Monitor........................:
CPU EIST Function..........................:
Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................:
Virtualization Technology..................:

[B]Uncore & QPI Features [Press Enter][/B]
QPI Clock Ratio*...........................:
QPI Link Speed* ......................(Ghz):
Uncore Clock Ratio.........................:
Uncore Frequency......................(Mhz):
Isochronous Support........................:
[B]Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>>Standard Clock Control[/I]
Base Clock (BCLK) Control*.................:
BCLK Frequency (Mhz)*......................:
PCI Exxpress Frequency (Mhz)...............:
[I]>>>>>Standard Clock Control[/I]
CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:
PCI  Express Clock Drive (mV)..............:
CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:
IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:
[B]Advanced Dram Features [Press Enter}[/B]
Performance Enhance........................:
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)............:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD).............:
Memory Frequency (Mhz).....................:
DRAM Timing Selectable (sPD) ..............:
Channel Interleaving............................:
Rank Interleaving................................:
[B]Channel A Timing Settings Sub Menu [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>>Channel A Standard Timing Control[/I]
Cas Latency Time.............................:
tRCD.........................................:
tRP..........................................:
tRAS.........................................:
[I]>>>>>Channel A Advanced Timing Control[/I]
tRC..........................................:
tRRD ........................................:
tWTR ........................................:
tWR..........................................: 
tWTP.........................................:
tWL..........................................:
tRFC.........................................: 
tRTP.........................................:
tFAW.........................................: 
Command Rate (CMD) .....................:
[I]>>>>>Channel A Misc Timing Control[/I]
B2B CAS Delay................................:
Round Trip Latency...........................: 
[B]Channel A Turnaround Setting [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>> Channel A Reads Followed By Reads[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................: 
[I]>>>>> Channel A Writes Followed By Writes[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................:


[B]Channel B Timing Settings Sub Menu [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>>Channel B Standard Timing Control[/I]
Cas Latency Time.............................:
tRCD.........................................:
tRP..........................................:
tRAS.........................................:
[I]>>>>>Channel B Advanced Timing Control[/I]
tRC..........................................:
tRRD ........................................:
tWTR ........................................:
tWR..........................................: 
tWTP.........................................:
tWL..........................................:
tRFC.........................................: 
tRTP.........................................:
tFAW.........................................: 
Command Rate (CMD) ..........................:
[I]>>>>>Channel B Misc Timing Control[/I]
B2B CAS Delay................................:
Round Trip Latency...........................: 
[B]Channel B Turnaround Setting [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>> Channel B Reads Followed By Reads[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................: 
[I]>>>>> Channel B Writes Followed By Writes[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................:


[B]Channel C Timing Settings Sub Menu [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>>Channel C Standard Timing Control[/I]
Cas Latency Time.............................:
tRCD.........................................:
tRP..........................................:
tRAS.........................................:
[I]>>>>>Channel C Advanced Timing Control[/I]
tRC..........................................:
tRRD ........................................:
tWTR ........................................:
tWR..........................................: 
tWTP.........................................:
tWL..........................................:
tRFC.........................................: 
tRTP.........................................:
tFAW.........................................: 
Command Rate (CMD) ..........................:
[I]>>>>>Channel C Misc Timing Control[/I]
B2B CAS Delay................................:
Round Trip Latency...........................: 
[B]Channel B Turnaround Setting [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>> Channel C Reads Followed By Reads[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................: 
[I]>>>>> Channel C Writes Followed By Writes[/I]
Different DIMMs..............................: 
Different Ranks..............................: 
On The Same Rank.............................:

[B]Advanced Voltage Control [Press Enter][/B]
[I]>>>>CPU Voltages[/I]
LoadLine Calibration.........................:
CPU Vcore....................................:
Dynamic Vcore(DVID)..........................:
QPI/VTT Voltage..............................:
CPU PLL......................................: 
[I]>>>>>MCH/ICH Voltrage[/I]
PCIE.........................................: 
QPI PLL......................................: 
IOH Core.....................................:
ICH I/O......................................: 
ICH Core.....................................:
[I]>>>>>Dram[/I]
DRAM Voltage.................................:
DRAM Termination.............................: 
Ch-A Data Vref...............................:
Ch-B Data Vref...............................:
Ch-C Data VRef...............................:
Ch-A Address Vref............................:
Ch-B Address Vref............................:
Ch-C Address VRef............................:
 
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