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Hello everyone.
For the past four-five years I have been wanting to build a new computer, but each time I sit down and read up on parts I always find that in x-months something new will arrive.
The use:
The use will be gaming primarily, but I will also use the PC for photo & video editing.
Scrubbing through 4K timelapse from edited RAW files is something the PC needs to tackle with ease.
My thoughts and concerns:
I have tried to read up on everything, but it seems like the forums of the internet is divided on a lot of topics. Please note that I have some fundamental knowledge about computer parts, but I haven't dived into all the new things. That's why I have to ask someone else for feedback.
One of my biggest concerns is the choice between the 2066 and 1151 factors. Or maybe even AMD?! AMD has most cores and threads, but it seems like Threadripper isn't showing to be the better choice in video editing? Please correct me if I misunderstand something here. Some say that Adobe programs "fit" intel better because of the coding.
There is just something telling me that getting the latest Intel generation is the best. 2066 has been around for a while, right? Although 2066 seems to be the better choice when it comes to a video editing rig...
From what I have read, video editing depends a lot on high CPU clockspeed, many cores and a lot of CUDA cores.
The 1151 CPU's have more MHZ compared to 2066, which seems to be good for Photoshop and most of the adobe collection (premiere, after effects) - according to a lot of benchmarks I've seen. (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...ormance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/). My biggest concern and what's keeping me on the fence, is that many of the tests are several months old, or from 2017.
According to a lot of comments on the internet say that a big un-adressed variable in the adobe benchmark testing is that it is not a "real world" test, since all the cores are not fully utilized in the test. Normally I would use the computer while rendering, which I guess is where more cores comes in handy.
The i7 8700K seems to be close to some of the top CPU's, but is relatively cheap. It only has 6 cores and 12 threads. But, will I benefit from having a CPU with more cores, although tests show that having "to many" cores will actually give a decrease in benchmarks.
The 2066 factor supports 128GB memory, although I don't think I will ever need or afford more than 64GB. If I was professional I could probably defend the need of 128GB.
2066 also has more PCIe lanes, and supports CPU's with more cores and threads.
Will PCIe lanes be a bottleneck if I choose 1151?
After finding this forum, I read a post here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/4k-video-editing-spec.18810927/
Saying "as mentioned, z370 was a rushed job, you'll find H370 boards will have better VRM and more chipset features then z370 and will cost a bit more then budget z370 - though not sure how long z390 will take to enter the party"
According to http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/119525-intel-z390-chipset-expected-z370-rebrand/ it will arrive in the autumn 2018. It will support 8 core coffee lake.
As I mentioned in the beginning of the post: I've been on the fence for to many years now. If I wait until spring, there will probably be something else new around the corner.
One alternative could be to buy a cheap motherboard and CPU, and upgrade in the autumn? What would you do?
Having problems deciding between the sockets, you can be certain that I have the same problems with choosing other parts.
Before writing this post I had landed on these specs:
Case: Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower. I like space when I work.
PSU: Corsair TX750M, 750W (I may need to get something better, as reviews and comments are not the best. But goddamnit PSU has gotten expensive!)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero, Socket-1151. It was either this or Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 7. The latter having three M.2 ports and two LAN ports is very positive. But reviews seems to recommend the ASUS ROG Maximus X hero. I also wish to try Overclocking, and it seems that ASUS is better?
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K. As said earlier. Benchmarks seems to praise this CPU compared to the much more expensive intel cpus.
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ROG Strix. According to tests, there is only a very small gain in percentage between 1070 and 1080ti.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-GPU-Performance-1139/
MEMORY: G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 RGB 32GB 3200Mhz. (2x16gb). I am very green on memory, but I've heard that G.skill is very good.
HARD DRIVES: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB PCIe M.2 SSD. I will get two of these. One for OS and programs, and one for media. Ideally I should also have a third for adobe cache and output files.
CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15. I haven't decided between air and water. Some say 8700k needs water cooling. Others say "if you water cool you need to delid". I don't even know what that is, but it sounds like sanding the metal on the cpu. I'm not keen on doing that....
Budget:
I live in Norway, so it's not easy to give a comparable budget because of norway's expensive taxes ++.
The parts I have listed is 25300 Norwegian Krone. Which is 2350 GBP. I may be able to stretch everything to 30000 NOK - 2800 GBP.
I hope to get some good feedback on my thoughts and concerns.
Thanks for reading.
For the past four-five years I have been wanting to build a new computer, but each time I sit down and read up on parts I always find that in x-months something new will arrive.
The use:
The use will be gaming primarily, but I will also use the PC for photo & video editing.
Scrubbing through 4K timelapse from edited RAW files is something the PC needs to tackle with ease.
My thoughts and concerns:
I have tried to read up on everything, but it seems like the forums of the internet is divided on a lot of topics. Please note that I have some fundamental knowledge about computer parts, but I haven't dived into all the new things. That's why I have to ask someone else for feedback.
One of my biggest concerns is the choice between the 2066 and 1151 factors. Or maybe even AMD?! AMD has most cores and threads, but it seems like Threadripper isn't showing to be the better choice in video editing? Please correct me if I misunderstand something here. Some say that Adobe programs "fit" intel better because of the coding.
There is just something telling me that getting the latest Intel generation is the best. 2066 has been around for a while, right? Although 2066 seems to be the better choice when it comes to a video editing rig...
From what I have read, video editing depends a lot on high CPU clockspeed, many cores and a lot of CUDA cores.
The 1151 CPU's have more MHZ compared to 2066, which seems to be good for Photoshop and most of the adobe collection (premiere, after effects) - according to a lot of benchmarks I've seen. (https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/a...ormance-Core-i7-8700K-i5-8600K-i3-8350K-1047/). My biggest concern and what's keeping me on the fence, is that many of the tests are several months old, or from 2017.
According to a lot of comments on the internet say that a big un-adressed variable in the adobe benchmark testing is that it is not a "real world" test, since all the cores are not fully utilized in the test. Normally I would use the computer while rendering, which I guess is where more cores comes in handy.
The i7 8700K seems to be close to some of the top CPU's, but is relatively cheap. It only has 6 cores and 12 threads. But, will I benefit from having a CPU with more cores, although tests show that having "to many" cores will actually give a decrease in benchmarks.
The 2066 factor supports 128GB memory, although I don't think I will ever need or afford more than 64GB. If I was professional I could probably defend the need of 128GB.
2066 also has more PCIe lanes, and supports CPU's with more cores and threads.
Will PCIe lanes be a bottleneck if I choose 1151?
After finding this forum, I read a post here: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/4k-video-editing-spec.18810927/
Saying "as mentioned, z370 was a rushed job, you'll find H370 boards will have better VRM and more chipset features then z370 and will cost a bit more then budget z370 - though not sure how long z390 will take to enter the party"
According to http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/119525-intel-z390-chipset-expected-z370-rebrand/ it will arrive in the autumn 2018. It will support 8 core coffee lake.
As I mentioned in the beginning of the post: I've been on the fence for to many years now. If I wait until spring, there will probably be something else new around the corner.
One alternative could be to buy a cheap motherboard and CPU, and upgrade in the autumn? What would you do?
Having problems deciding between the sockets, you can be certain that I have the same problems with choosing other parts.
Before writing this post I had landed on these specs:
Case: Cooler Master HAF X Big Tower. I like space when I work.
PSU: Corsair TX750M, 750W (I may need to get something better, as reviews and comments are not the best. But goddamnit PSU has gotten expensive!)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero, Socket-1151. It was either this or Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 7. The latter having three M.2 ports and two LAN ports is very positive. But reviews seems to recommend the ASUS ROG Maximus X hero. I also wish to try Overclocking, and it seems that ASUS is better?
CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K. As said earlier. Benchmarks seems to praise this CPU compared to the much more expensive intel cpus.
GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Ti ROG Strix. According to tests, there is only a very small gain in percentage between 1070 and 1080ti.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Photoshop-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-GPU-Performance-1139/
MEMORY: G.Skill Trident Z DDR4 RGB 32GB 3200Mhz. (2x16gb). I am very green on memory, but I've heard that G.skill is very good.
HARD DRIVES: Samsung 970 EVO 500GB PCIe M.2 SSD. I will get two of these. One for OS and programs, and one for media. Ideally I should also have a third for adobe cache and output files.
CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15. I haven't decided between air and water. Some say 8700k needs water cooling. Others say "if you water cool you need to delid". I don't even know what that is, but it sounds like sanding the metal on the cpu. I'm not keen on doing that....
Budget:
I live in Norway, so it's not easy to give a comparable budget because of norway's expensive taxes ++.
The parts I have listed is 25300 Norwegian Krone. Which is 2350 GBP. I may be able to stretch everything to 30000 NOK - 2800 GBP.
I hope to get some good feedback on my thoughts and concerns.
Thanks for reading.
