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Gaming Devolved?

Bacon? said:
Well that was intersting... :rolleyes:

On topic though, why would the companies release statements saying they were disapointed with the sales if they don't include the majority of the PC sales. Its not like they said "these are console only figures"
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I think the point that people are missing is that each of these games, as a whole, lost money, and the publisher lost money... regardless of where the lack of sales are, publishers losing money means less games getting made, and that is never a good thing

plus, giving away free or low value copies of games isn't exactly a recipe for profit, which again is potentially bad news for every gamer if big publishers stop doing tie ins like this

like any good journalist (sic), I used a headline that I knew would drag the punters in...
 
of course I read the article, I read several on the same subject, they all state the individual games themselves lost money, e.g. failed to recoup their development costs... you can't "lose" money on consols but "make" money on PC's, the games either made back their dev costs or they didn't

saying "ah but the article is about consoles" is blinkered nonsense
 
TheRealDeal said:
Its now been moved to the pc games section when the article is clearly about poor console sales.
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it doesn't matter, poor sales failing to recoup production costs are poor sales on every platform

if I develop a product that comes in red green and blue, it doesn't matter if I sell loads of red ones but none of the green and blue ones, if the combined sales across all 3 colours are not enough to cover my costs then I'm not making any more of any colour, it's not like I'll say to myself "next time I'll only make red ones" because I already know that just selling red ones also won't cover my development and advertising costs that I was hoping green and blue ones would help to cover

granted my title was sensationalist, but the actual problem here isn't changed by the title or some people's reaction to it
 
spoffle said:
The issue is how you're trying to relate this to the Gaming Evolved programme when it's not at all.

We all know this and you do too, but you did it on purpose didn't you?
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well the first thing that struck me when I read the articles was, I wonder how giving away lots of free copies of the games affected profit margins (without knowing what the deal was between the two)

I'll admit there was a certain cantankerous joviality to the thread title

however, at my first opportunity to come back on the board, I did expand on my intention of posting the core information, though obviously I didn't really expect it to explode the way it did, but given that it did, I'm not very surprised that people are having a hard time expecting a sensible discussion now

I don't understand why anyone would feel happy or gutted towards a company though, AMD and Nvidia are just both companies, they make and sell products, I have no emotional attachment to either... I frequently recommend AMD products to people that want to buy them and Nvidia products to people that want to buy those... sometimes I buy from both and post up my experience with either as it happens, I have been ****ed at nvidia over the pcie 3.0 on X79 debacle, I've also been unhappy with AMD over not supporting a game I like

if anything, it is personal insults being thrown at me by staunch AMD supporters that leads me to present information in a particular way if it amuses me to do so

competition is good, the customers need AMD and Nvidia to be in competition to drive hardware forwards... one of these companies is making 160 million plus losses per quarter, the other is making 170 million plus profits... this isn't good for consumers anywhere
 
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