Gaming PC for Nephew

[shaynemawer]

After you guy's helped me spec and build a pc for myself (which is still running very nicely) its come the time where my nephew wants some help to swap his aging laptop for a gaming pc. He's wanting something that plays COD, BF6, Rust etc. So new gen games mostly.

He has keyboard, mouse and monitor already.

He had originally sent me a pre built pc, which was the following specs. But as with some of these pre builds, it's not listed exactly the model etc of the components -

• Intel Core i7 14700KF
• NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070
• Intel B760 Chipset
• 360mm AIO Liquid Cooler
• Cooler Master MasterLiquid 360 Core II
• 64GB DDR5
• Power Supply Our Choice 850W 80 Plus Gold

and was coming in at £2000.

Think i've managed to talk him out of having a prebuilt and look at the options to build it him/our selves.

I was maybe thinking of something like the following. Obviously you guy's input and knowledge will be very much appreciated


My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Acer Predator Radeon RX 9070 XT OC 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-ACR-04813) = £599.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
• 1 x MSI X870E Gaming Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-05544) = £199.99
• 1 x MSI MAG CORELIQUID A13 360 BLACK ARGB Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 360mm (SKU: COO-MSI-03870) = £59.99
• 1 x Gigabyte Aorus 7300 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-GIG-05732) = £149.98
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £170.00
• 1 x Phanteks NV7 D-RGB with Front and Side Glass Panels Full Tower Case - White (SKU: CA-0BR-PT) = £149.94
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.98

Total: £1,764.86 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

There's room for movement on price up or down, depending on money saved and if there's little or more performance gain.

 

[sx_turbo]

I'd go for a cheaper motherboard unless there is a specific reason needs the top end Extreme version, then can put towards the extra ram he originally specified at 64gb

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b850-gaming-plus-wifi6e-amd-am5-b850-atx-motherboard-mot-msi-05941.html

 

[Gray2233]

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Eight Core 5.20GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: PRO-AMD-03517) = £389.99
• 1 x MSI B850M Gaming Plus WIFI6E (AMD AM5) B850 DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MOT-MSI-05943) = £139.99
• 1 x Team Group G70 PRO 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-TMG-02618) = £129.95
• 1 x Phanteks AMP GH 850W 80PLUS Gold ATX Power Supply Modular - Black (SKU: POW-PHK-02519) = £104.99
• 1 x Aerocool Dryft Mini v2 Micro-ATX Case (SKU: CAS-AER-00607) = £54.99
• 1 x Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 Digital ARGB Black CPU Cooler - 120mm (SKU: COO-TLR-04207) = £29.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £169.99
• 1 x Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 9070 XT Gaming 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-SPR-03983) = £539.99

Total: £1,571.87 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

M-ATX as it's a preference of mine, it also has more decently priced motherboards available currently.

The case I've listed actually has fans.

Comes in at £200 cheaper but features a 9800X3D so will be slightly quicker.

I'd not bump up to 64gb of RAM in the current climate unless he really needs it for some reason, for gaming that's unlikely.

 

[shaynemawer]

perfect, thanks for the suggestions. I'll put this across to him. He did mention something about the RGB side been chroma compatible, but that is all totally lost on me lol.

 

[shaynemawer]

So unfortunately due to work then me going away, my nephew has left ordering too late for me to help build him one. Yet he is still after a pc, so has been looking at pre built ones. He sent me this last night

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-harrier-amd-ryzen-7-7700x-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-pc-fs-1eu-og.html?configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B416457%5D%5Bsku%5D=CAS-AER-00607&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417306%5D%5Bsku%5D=CP-3DG-AM&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417307%5D%5Bsku%5D=MEM-KNG-02961&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417308%5D%5Bsku%5D=GRA-ASU-04157&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417309%5D%5Bsku%5D=COO-MSI-03872&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417310%5D%5Bsku%5D=STO-WDC-06213&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417311%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417312%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B412086%5D%5Bsku%5D=SW-18N-MS&configurator_state_form%5B_token%5D=45a145f8adbe3b877c8e4945.l5iUuTi8nqpdBnMurAlH4PRs0vSwwUhwmI4h2AI14Fw.2-ik0FPKx8gZRCRN3m0LrJEUqsPHj3A28b1N6TF72AzN0vjjAfbL2w4_Kg&configurator_state_form%5BgroupKey%5D=#configurator-anchor

i found the below

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-falcon-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-radeon-rx-9070-xt-gaming-pc-fs-1fh-og.html?configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417139%5D%5Bsku%5D=CA-07P-KK&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417140%5D%5Bsku%5D=CP-3E2-AM&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417141%5D%5Bsku%5D=MY-29S-KS&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417142%5D%5Bsku%5D=COO-MSI-03872&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417143%5D%5Bsku%5D=GRA-PWC-04017&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417144%5D%5Bsku%5D=STO-WDC-04134&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417145%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417146%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417135%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5Bslots%5D%5B417137%5D%5Bsku%5D=&configurator_state_form%5B_token%5D=3853458b475.qooMtgIFB8DfVQUXAdUh-XRimtWXQDdcxGnznMtC8Oo.x9Ju0WtfcITtP3VWQ5tPsz4w7bCkA1gllQvEyIw1mtnFwl_8c25mpZE9UA&configurator_state_form%5BgroupKey%5D=

really struggling to see what to offer to him, especially with the way ram prices are going

 

[sx_turbo]

I'd go for the 2nd one, price is roughly the same

 

[mickyflinn]

The falcon 7800x3d is better but Windows is not selected in the options so need to add £110 if you want that but you could install it yourself and buy a key for £10.

 

[shaynemawer]

The falcon 7800x3d is better but Windows is not selected in the options so need to add £110 if you want that but you could install it yourself and buy a key for £10.

Yes, I took that out for him to save money.

Don't know the difference on graphics cards and if it's worth adjusting any of the components in the build?.

 

[Gray2233]

Yes, I took that out for him to save money.

Don't know the difference on graphics cards and if it's worth adjusting any of the components in the build?.

The 9070XT is faster than the 9070, there's little notable difference between brands.

I'd spend an extra £50 to change the 1tb NvME to the 2tb WD Black SN850X, 1tb isn't a lot of storage these days and prices are going to skyrocket for SSD's soon too I expect.

The 850 is a very competent gen 4 drive with DRAM.

 

[mickyflinn]

Yes, I took that out for him to save money.

Don't know the difference on graphics cards and if it's worth adjusting any of the components in the build?.

If funds allow I would up the storage to 2tb it's only £50 for the wd850x

 

[shaynemawer]

good shout, hes changed the case and the storage to below, with final price coming in at £1700

Phanteks XT Pro Ultra ATX Case Tempered Glass Window, Black​

WD Black SN850X 2TB SSD M.2 2280​

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[shaynemawer]

I have quickly put the parts list into the basket as if doing a self build, selecting the cheapest psu and motherboard options as they aint listed on the pre built. its actually coming in more expensive, unless am missing something.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x Phanteks XT Pro Ultra ATX Case Tempered Glass Window, Black (SKU: CAS-PHK-01443) = £74.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DT-AM) = £329.99
• 1 x Kingston FURY Beast EXPO RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C36 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C36BBEAK2-32) (SKU: MY-29S-KS) = £359.98
• 1 x MSI MAG CORELIQUID A13 240 BLACK ARGB Performance All In One CPU Cooler - 240mm (SKU: COO-MSI-03872) = £65.00
• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 9070 XT Reaper 16GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GRA-PWC-04017) = £599.98
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T2X0E) (SKU: HD-591-WD) = £177.95
• 1 x Aerocool Integrator Gold 850W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-23T-AE) = £89.99
• 1 x Asus Prime B650M-A WIFI II (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro-ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K6-AS) = £114.95

Total: £1,812.83 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

 

[Gray2233]

The pre-built PC's will be using existing/old stock that's been reserved at old prices I suspect, the cost of RAM has skyrocketed and storage costs are starting to go up too.

We actually saw similar during the lockdown, the price of GPU's became so ridiculously high it was often cheaper to buy a prebuild than build yourself if doing it from scratch.

 

[shaynemawer]

The pre-built PC's will be using existing/old stock that's been reserved at old prices I suspect, the cost of RAM has skyrocketed and storage costs are starting to go up too.

We actually saw similar during the lockdown, the price of GPU's became so ridiculously high it was often cheaper to buy a prebuild than build yourself if doing it from scratch.

Pretty understandable, so at this minute. He's not too bad off by buying a prebuilt for mid entry gaming needs.

 

[mickyflinn]

Pretty understandable, so at this minute. He's not too bad off by buying a prebuilt for mid entry gaming needs.

Plus you get a 3 years warranty which will save you a lot of hassle.