Gaming PC

MoFish · 6 Apr 2006 at 14:20

hello, im looking to buy a complete gaming system for around the £2000 mark including a 19" LCD monitor. I really dont want to be building the system, as I will problerly break it, so was looking to buy it from a company. I've been onto That place I'm not allowed to mention and that other place... I really must read the rules and spec'd up some machine, but im not sure if its really worth it. (i dont have a clue about systems, i just enjoy ticking the boxes)

are there any other companys apart from Bob's backyard PCs and My first computer store, which could knock me up a complete high spec gaming system?

heres the spec i knocked up from bored with editing now:

[1] Aurora™ 7500

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 - 3800+ Processor with HyperTransport and Dual Core Technology
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition UK with SP2 - English
Warranty: BobCare 1-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return
Case: Rules® Full-Tower Case - Saucer Silver
Chassis Upgrades: Rules™ 2.0 Video Cooling System with Acoustic Dampening
Power Supply: Rules® 650 Watt ATX 2.0 Power Supply with Active PFC
Motherboard: Rules® nForce™4 SLI™ x 16 Motherboard
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel Low Latency DDR PC-3200 at 400MHz - 2 x 1024MB
Video Card: Dual 256MB PCI-Express x16 NVIDIA® GeForce™ 7900 GT - SLI Enabled
System Drive: 250 GB Serial ATA II 7,200 rpm w/ 8MB Cache - Quantity 1
Optical Drive One: Premium 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Recorder
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster® Audigy™ 4
Network Card: Integrated High Performance Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (DSL-ready)
Removable Storage: Rules® 28-in-1 Digital Media Reader / Writer
Floppy Drive: 1.44 MB Floppy Drive - Black
Security Software: Kaspersky Anti-Virus Personal Professional - English
Keyboard: Logitech Internet Keyboard UK - Space Black
Mouse: Microsoft® Basic Optical Mouse Black
Monitor: 19" LCD Samsung SyncMaster 930BF Black Ultra Fast - 4ms response! - Quantity 1
Rules: Rules - Exclusive Integration and Inspection - £50 Value - FREE!
Rules: Rules - Exclusive Internal Wire Management - £50 Value - FREE!
Free T-Shirt: Rules® T-Shirt - White - XL

£2,366.45

Thanks Again, MoFish

barney · 6 Apr 2006 at 15:12

Looks ok but a little pricey. The CPU is a bit low spec compared to the rest of the PC. That monitor is very nice btw (i have the same at home

). You could build a simlar spec system for a lot less (im going to put together a higher spec system for a friend (more or less the same but AMD duel core 4800 and 20.1" monitor) and the parts cost is around £1950.

I think you may get into trouble for posting this though as you are not supposed to link or talk about the compition (AFAIK).

FISHGUTS · 6 Apr 2006 at 15:27

Why not have a go at building your own ?
It's fairly easy and everyone on the forums is always happy to help out with even the daftest questions.
Have a look at the ocuk bundles.
I'm sure for the money you are willing to spend you will get a lot more for your money.
Why not ask the forums for a spec for the money you are willing to pay, those in the know like spending other peeps money.

vanandjuanunited · 6 Apr 2006 at 15:28

Wow look at the free stuff.

Build your own.

Explicit · 6 Apr 2006 at 15:32

Very pricey IMO.

If you don't want to build it yourself, you could always consider a pre-built OcUK system:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/full_systems.html

Be careful about the "dual" and "dual core" in the title...very misleading.

fenderbass86 · 6 Apr 2006 at 16:38

Total rip-off MoFo! If your willing to spend that much on a gaming PC then either build your own which everyone suggests (it's fun and satisfying too), or if your not feeling up to the task, look at the:
"Ultima Crossfire X1900 XT-X" AMD Athlon X2 4800 Dual DDR System - Price: £1,749.00 (£2,055.07 Including VAT at 17.5%)

cheaper and a lot better than the one you showed us.

Explicit · 6 Apr 2006 at 17:15

Also notice how unbalanced the system is.

X2 3800 with 2 7900GTs in SLI? If it was an X2 4400+, that would be more balanced.

On top of that, SLI for a tiny 19" monitor? Major overkill for such a low resolution.

djjuk · 6 Apr 2006 at 19:18

Agree with all of the above...Total rip off.

Build it yourself, use the wealth of knowledge on the forums here..

Also, a good guide here:

http://sysbuild.corsairmemory.com/report.aspx?id=2&sid=1

KizZ · 6 Apr 2006 at 19:26

How about:

"Ultima Crossfire X1900 XT-X" AMD Athlon X2 4800 Dual DDR System (FS-019-OK)

- AMD Athlon X2 4800 Dual Core San Diego (Socket 939) Dual DDR400 CPU
- AMD Approved cooler
- Asus A8R32-MVP DELUXE Crossfire Dual Channel PCI-Express Motherboard
- Corsair 2GB (2x1GB) DDR XMS3200C2PT CAS2.0 Dual Channel Kit
- 250GB Western Digital 16mb cache SATA-2 Hard Drive
- ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
- ATI Radeon X1900 XT CrossFire Edition 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
- Plextor PX-755 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter
- Creative Sound Blaster Fatal1ty Sound Card
- Black floppy drive
- Coolermaster Wavemaster Black Case
- Tagan TG580-U15 580W ATX2.01 Easycon SLi Compliant Modular Silent PSU
- Windows XP Professional pre-installed with License and CD supplied

And spend the rest of your money on peripherals and a nice monitor

. This will be MUCH better choice than the alienware crap.

fps133 · 6 Apr 2006 at 19:31

I'd say that both Rules and Rules are over priced.

I recently built a machine for the first time and it was all pretty straight forward. Also if you're gonna be spending that much money it's worth knowing the ins and out of all the components. When building a computer you will inevitably learn all this, as I have.

jcb33 · 6 Apr 2006 at 20:48

What i have just ordered.... im slapping myself because i sinned and dident build my own but meh its nice spec

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Genuine Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
CoolerMaster Praetorian 732 Aluminum Case - Black
HEC 550W PSU
asus A8r32-MVP Deluxe - ATI xpress 3200 PCUI Express Mainboard
2048MB Samsung PC3200 Ram
600GB (2x 300GB Serial ATA Hard Drives)
Sony 16x Dual Layer DVD-Re-Writable +R/-R/RW
Sony 16x Dual Layer DVD-Re-Writable +R/-R/RW (Yes Two Drives)
512MB ATI Radeon X1900XTX
20" Viewsonic VA2012W Widescreen TFT
7.1 Channel Surround Sound Audia (On-Board)
Logitech S200 - 2.1 Speakers with Subwoofer
Logitech Cordless Keyboard And Cordless Optical Mouse
Microsoft Works 8.5
Cyberlink Video Editing Suit - 7 Titles
ASUS WL 138G 802.11G/b wi-fi PCI Card
1.44MB Floppy Drive (Never Leave Home Without Mr Floppy

)
3 Year Warranty

Price Including Deliver £1,982.20

Explicit · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:15

MoFish said:
Aurora™ 7500
£2,366.45

Just to give you an idea of what you can expect from a DIY PC:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4400CDBOX) (CP-127-AM)
£328.94
Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-131-AS) **this week only**
£117.44
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Platinum Series EL-DDR CAS2 (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) (MY-057-OC)
£164.44
ATI Radeon X1900 ***Crossfire Edition*** 512MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-045-CO)
£375.94
PowerColor ATI Radeon X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-059-PC) **this week only**
£352.44
Western Digital Raptor 74GB WD740GD 10,000RPM SATA 8MB Cache - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£109.86
Western Digital Caviar SE16 250GB 2500KS SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-046-WD)
£65.21
NEC ND4551 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer LabelFlash ReWriter (Black) - OEM (CD-026-NE)
£30.49
Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940) (FG-000-AR)
£18.74
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - Retail (SC-034-CL)
£82.19
Antec P180 SPCR Advanced Super Midi Tower Case - No PSU (Black) (CA-049-AN)
£93.94
FSP Sparkle FX700-GLN Epsilon 700W ATX2.0 PSU (CA-001-SK)
£113.92
NEC MultiSync® LCD20WGX2 20.1" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black/Silver (MO-009-NE) **this week only**
£387.69
Saitek PZ30AU Eclipse Illuminated Keyboard (KB-015-SK)
£29.32
Logitech G5 Gaming-Grade Laser Mouse (KB-069-LG)
£37.54
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition inc. SP2 - OEM - 1Pk (N09-01528) (OS-001-MS)
£58.69

Total inc VAT: £2,366.79

That's a 34 pence difference in price, but a massive difference in performance/spec

Traducer · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:15

I strongly recommend you try and build your own, pre built systems are often a complete rip off as some of the ones I seen above :eek:

, for the same money you can build a beastly machine if you had a go at putting one together. Plus its never the same unless you build it yourself, this way you get to know all the ins and outs of it, so when something goes wrong, you know roughly where to look, as you tend to learn about the machine as you go along.

jcb33 · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:18

haha i wish the above was true but well it is in most cases my pcs dies i know whats dead i replace it... but this time its jerky in games and i just cant figure out the problem and i thought i would give prebuilt a shot..... worth a try if it still gets problems then pfft i will just make them myself again....... tho if it still jerks them im haunted to be fair

Anyway dont go for the one you posted first.... there a total rip off... there just for people with more money than brain cells to be fair.... mines a lot but i couldent build it cheaper

Rilot · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:25

Someone really, REALLY needs to read the forum rules.

jcb33 · 6 Apr 2006 at 21:27

If you wanted to build same spec as me...

REFERENCE DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE COST REMOVE
CP-129-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ (Socket 939) - Retail (ADA4800CDBOX) (CP-129-AM)
£384.95 £384.95
SW-008-MS Microsoft Windows XP Media Centre 2005 Edition - OEM - 1Pk (M93-00200) (SW-008-MS)
£64.95 £64.95
CA-026-TT Thermaltake VC2000BNS Mambo SuperMidi Tower - Black (CA-026-TT)
£27.95 £27.95
CA-028-AN Antec TruePower 2.0 550W PSU (CA-028-AN)
£64.95 £64.95
MB-131-AS Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe Crossfire (Socket 939) PCI-Express Motherboard (MB-131-AS)
£99.95 £99.95
MY-014-SA Samsung Original 1GB DDR2 PC4200 533MHz (MY-014-SA)
£54.95 £109.90
HD-089-MD Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB 6V300F0 SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (HD-089-MD)
£64.95 £129.90
CD-025-SO Sony CRX320EE CDRW/DVD Combi Drive (Black) - OEM (CD-025-SO)
£17.95 £35.90
GX-087-AS Asus ATI Radeon EAX-X1900 XT-X 512MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (GX-087-AS)
£339.95 £339.95
MO-051-VS Viewsonic VA2012W 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Silver/Black (MO-051-VS)
£249.95 £249.95
SP-032-LG Logitech Z-4 2.1 40 Watts Speakers - Retail (SP-032-LG)
£44.95 £44.95
KB-072-LG Logitech Cordless Desktop EX-110 - Retail (KB-072-LG)
£19.95 £19.95
SW-019-MS Microsoft Works 8.5 - OEM (SW-019-MS)
£9.95 £9.95
NW-007-BE Belkin F5D7000UK 802.11g Wireless PCI Adapter (NW-007-BE)
£16.95 £16.95
HD-002-MI Mitsumi FA 404M 7in1 USB 2.0 Floppy & Media Drive - Black (HD-002-MI)
£12.95 £12.95
Subtotal £1,613.10
VAT £282.30
Total £1,895.40

Mr Spew · 7 Apr 2006 at 03:56

I've had so many problems with a machine someone else built and that I've tried doing things to, that I'd always go with a company pre-built model, the Overclockers bundles seem decent for the convienience.

Calum · 7 Apr 2006 at 10:48

jcb you realise that you can't use ddr2 memory in an amd machine, also i would recommend 2gb over the one

booyaka · 7 Apr 2006 at 11:08

absolutely - dump the DDR2 and get 2 gb for the same price - any gaming PC really now needs 2gb.