Garage ground anchor for bikes

danlightbulb

danlightbulb

danlightbulb

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Hi.

Any one able to give me a kit list of what i need to fit a ground anchor of some kind to my concrete garage floor or alternatively wall to chain bikes up to please? Need to be able to chain up 5 bikes.

I have an SDS drill, have never used chemical fixings before.

Also, accredited bike locks are really expensive so need something cheaper really.
 
Its a rented house with up and over door. There's not much i want to do to that really cos of cost and not my house. I need something I can bolt down as floor is already there.
 
As TripleT says the weak link will be the chain. I'd just use some sleeve anchor eye bolts. Their pull out rating will probably be at least 6Kn which would need over 6000Kg of force to pull them out. It's far more likely they'd just go equipped with bolt cutters.

In reality if a thief has got as far as planning to steal your bikes, going into your garage and touching your bikes, he's leaving with them. All you are deterring is the opportunistic thief who see an unlocked door or weak lock on the door, in that scenario any heavy duty chain and padlock will be enough to put them off.
 
http://www.oxfordproducts.com/motor..._anchor/?PHPSESSID=pgj3pq6i1kdnkjtu0cm562ptf4

I have fitted several of these in various houses, they come supplied with the rawl bolts needed to fit them and are easy to fit with an SDS drill. I have fitted them into walls and concrete floors (floors are better than walls). Fairly cheap and cheerful but they are decent enough. I have fitted a much larger one back when I had a motor bike but these were plenty good enough for push bikes. I have used big long steel cables and padlocks to loop multiple bikes and heavier motorcycle chains as well. You can really go to town on security stuff, but I think you have to find the balance between price and security. These fairly inexpensive ones with a half assed chain will be enough to put most people off. If someone really, really wants your bikes they will find a way but this will put off any opportunist. A policeman once told me about theives dismantling the back wall of a garage (bypassing the locks and the secure door) to steal it, so there really is only so far you can go.

Dave
 
@divuk83 thanks. seems not too bad, maybe a bit expensive given its not too chunky.

can anyone recommend where i can get cheap thick chain from (13mm i think is a good balance). can be raw chain as ill use an old inner tube to cover it. i think id like probably 4m worth to go round all the bikes. also need good padlock thats resistant to cheap croppers but not too expensive.
 
Dan i'd go Pragmasis 16mm, anything below is quite weak for the determined crim

https://securityforbikes.com/security-chains.php

Or 19mm as used by MOD if you really want to step it up.


After that the next best thing you can buy is a door contact/PIR wireless alarm, which goes off in your bedroom when setoff. Most bikes go at night while sleeping, none the wiser, you can pick these up off ebay, as soon as garage breached you get woken up, with chance to catch in the act and go out with a bat/phone police/film with bright flashlight etc etc Once they know you're onto them they'll scarper usually.

This sort of thing works wonderfully and a snatch at £15

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wireless...hash=item213e6d7e8c:m:mC2RXmGckIS9KhQdvBPZvZQ
 
the pragmasis stuff is too expensive. think looking at £70 for 2m of 13mm chain. whats the point putting great chain on if doing a budget ground anchor and a mid range lock. i just need a proportionate setup for circa £50 all in.
 
As others have said on here, if a thief wants to steal them, they will be stolen.

If they are in a locked garage they will be covered by almost every house insurance provider out there. You'll still need to make sure you have adequate insurance cover regardless as locks are not thief proof. You just need to make sure you meet the minimum requirements for the insurance, locked garage is normally sufficient.
 
Isn't having an accredited lock better come the time of a claim. As some thiefs will recognise harder to break security and then not bother. Also when it comes to a claim you have proof u took all reasonable steps to secure the bike.

Get 2 slider bolts welded to the garage door and drill holes in the brickwork and then some high security anti cut padlocks.
 
pigeonguyuk said:
Isn't having an accredited lock better come the time of a claim. As some thiefs will recognise harder to break security and then not bother. Also when it comes to a claim you have proof u took all reasonable steps to secure the bike.

Get 2 slider bolts welded to the garage door and drill holes in the brickwork and then some high security anti cut padlocks.
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Contents insurance won't care whether you chained it up or not. If anything it will just increase the claim cost as you'd be claiming for a new lock / chain also. As long as you meet the requirement of the policy they won't be interested.
 
danlightbulb said:
Its £75 though :( for a bit of formed steel.

Chain £75, lock £30+. Its too much.

What anchor, chain and lock can i get for circa £50-£70 all in?
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Is there any small print in your insurance which says the locks must be rated to a certain standard eg Sold Secure Gold or Silver?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
As others have said on here, if a thief wants to steal them, they will be stolen.

If they are in a locked garage they will be covered by almost every house insurance provider out there. You'll still need to make sure you have adequate insurance cover regardless as locks are not thief proof. You just need to make sure you meet the minimum requirements for the insurance, locked garage is normally sufficient.
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This is always the argument I go up against when trying to secure the office.

It's pretty obvious that given the time and resources, most competent thieves will get what they want. However, the choice you make is how difficult you want to make it for them. The last two burglaries i've had visibility on were in the premises no longer than 15 mins each time, and opportunistic theft is highest on the agenda. The more time they have to spend on trying to deal with your security measures, is less time they can be stealing a lot more or indeed damaging other things, and potentially more time for you to notice and react. An example - when my office was burgled, the thief took laptops that weren't secured, yet took one look at mine that was secured with a cable lock (which would probably take about 10-15mins to mitigate), and moved on.

However, the main reason I would hold back on security measures, is if they turn their attention to the house to get keys etc.
 
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#Chri5# said:
Is there any small print in your insurance which says the locks must be rated to a certain standard eg Sold Secure Gold or Silver?
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That usually only applied to unattended bikes away from your home, most don't cover away from your home unless specifically stated. As the poster above and I said you only need to meet the minimum for the the insurance policy which is usually just a locked building (aka a garage). It's not reasonable to expect more than that unless the item is really high value.

Gayjin said:
It's pretty obvious that given the time and resources, most competent thieves will get what they want. However, the choice you make is how difficult you want to make it for them. The last two burglaries i've had visibility on were in the premises no longer than 15 mins each time, and opportunistic theft is highest on the agenda.

However, the main reason I would hold back on security measures, is if they turn their attention to the house to get keys etc.
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There is a pretty big difference in the risk for a commercial and residential security. I agree that in an commercial property you are must better off putting in place physical security measures to stop thieves, you are not likely to be there when the place is hit and you will normally just walk into it in the morning. There is often a lot of money on the table that cant be cheaply insured for if business is disrupted.

The most effective way to stop opportunistic thieves is to discourage them from entering your premises in the first place. That's where you want to be focusing your efforts, once they are in its way too late...

If your property is targeted then they are likely to come equipped anyway at which point all but the best security measures wouldn't stand a chance.

Your last sentence is the main reason as to why normal people should't go nuts with security and the recommended direction is to just do whats needed for your insurance. If anything heavy security measures are attractive to thieves because there is a perception there is something worth taking there. Stuff like bikes, cars etc. can be easily replaced and insurance is cheap. Also leave your keys somewhere between yourself and the door (like the bottom of the stairs), the last thing you want is to be confronted by a masked person in the middle of the night with a machete.
 
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