GeForce GTX 590 Key Features Revealed

Andrei23 · 14 Mar 2011 at 12:53

The median price of the gtx 580s as sold by ocuk is £411. If the gtx 590 is two gtx 580s in sli basically it will cost £411 times 2 plus whatever premium nvidia sees fit to charge. This card will cost upwards of £800.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 12:55

shaffaaf27 said:
what review was that?

Anandtech

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4209/amds-radeon-hd-6990-the-new-single-card-king/18

Amd requested that sites do the tests first before taking the cooler off to take pictures of the bare card due to the fact they were using phase change thermal compound. Its pretty obvious from the results that anandtech got that they took the card apart and reassembled it with regular TIM leading to the higher temps that ramped the fan way up.

RavenXXX2 · 14 Mar 2011 at 12:56

Nvidia have refined their cooling and fan technology with the 500 cards, I expect the 590 to be way quieter than the 6990, maybe even cooler. AMD has got lazy with their cooler designs, same generic style releases after release, Nvidia take things like SLI in to considering and lower the fan to let the cards on top in SLI breathe, it's little things like this that set Nvidia and AMD apart.

Gerard said:
Anandtech

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4209/amds-radeon-hd-6990-the-new-single-card-king/18

Amd requested that sites do the tests first before taking the cooler off to take pictures of the bare card due to the fact they were using phase change thermal compound. Its pretty obvious from the results that anandtech got that they took the card apart and reassembled it with regular TIM leading to the higher temps that ramped the fan way up.

According to Overclock3D, he tested the card with the stock tim before he removed the cooler, his conclusion was it's all marketing bull and he actually got lower temps with a different tim applied to the cores.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 12:59

RavenXXX2 said:
Nvidia have refined their cooling and fan technology with the 500 cards, I expect the 590 to be way quieter than the 6990, maybe even cooler. AMD has got lazy with their cooler designs, same generic style releases after release,

Funny that since the gtx295 single pcb cooler looks to have the same fan size and mounting method as the 590...

RavenXXX2 said:
Nvidia take things like SLI in to considering and lower the fan to let the cards on top in SLI breathe, it's little things like this that set Nvidia and AMD apart.

What are you babbling about? :confused:

RavenXXX2 · 14 Mar 2011 at 12:59

Gerard said:
Funny that since the gtx295 single pcb cooler looks to have the same fan size and mounting method as the 590...

What are you babbling about?

Slow this morning? notice how the AMD have a flat shroud, in crossfire the lower cards fan hardly get room to breathe, Nvida have lowerd the part of the shroud where the fan is so it can get more air, simple as that.

TheRealDeal · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:02

RavenXXX2 said:
Nvidia have refined their cooling and fan technology with the 500 cards, I expect the 590 to be way quieter than the 6990, maybe even cooler. AMD has got lazy with their cooler designs, same generic style releases after release, Nvidia take things like SLI in to considering and lower the fan to let the cards on top in SLI breathe, it's little things like this that set Nvidia and AMD apart.

Yea just like the gtx480 compared to the 5870 lol stop talking rubbish. The gtx280 was also way louder than the 4870 so your nvidia take cooling into consideration is looking pretty stupid. For 2 generations of gpu nvidia have had the louder cards.

They have done well with the gtx5xx but they had to if they wanted to sell cards as they were getting a bad rep for being to hot and loud.

As for overclock3d you mean the guy that sticks the mic straight on the card. You have a very short memory raven he also said the same about your gtx480 which you claim is not loud. Remember all the videos of the gtx480 sounding like a jet taking off.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:03

RavenXXX2 said:
According to Overclock3D, he tested the card with the stock tim before he removed the cooler, his conclusion was it's all marketing bull and he actually got lower temps with a different tim applied to the cores.

Did he get 77db out of it like anandtech did? Even guru 3d didn't have many complaints about the fan sound. You're also missing the point where oc3d mentioned they had thermal shutdowns, which could have something to do with the tim used. I also don't see in their review on their site where they mention changing the compound.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:04

RavenXXX2 said:
Slow this morning? notice how the AMD have a flat shroud, in crossfire the lower cards fan hardly get room to breathe, Nvida have lowerd the part of the shroud where the fan is so it can get more air, simple as that.

Yeah by about 2mm, im sure that will greatly enhance the cooling by vast multiples of degrees...

RavenXXX2 · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:07

Fact is 6990 is hot and loud, majority of reviews shows this and it's down to the awful fan design, willing to take bets that the 590 is cooler and quieter.

Overclock3D editor posted it on his youtube channel.

Yeah thats BS mate. I tested the cards and made vids before stripping down. If anything they were cooler after. The GTX480 tried the same thing, its just a cop out for the manus when they know the cards get hot. Any decent TIM like MX4 or NH-1 ect will outperform the gunk they use from the factory.

Its just to stop nubs who dont know what they are doing using something basic or **** like arctic silver.
TimeToLiveCustoms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKWbwjiR7h8

Gerard said:
Yeah by about 2mm, im sure that will greatly enhance the cooling by vast multiples of degrees...

Every little thing helps.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:07

TheRealDeal said:
As for overclock3d you mean the guy that sticks the mic straight on the card. You have a very short memory raven he also said the same about your gtx480 which you claim is not loud. Remember all the videos of the gtx480 sounding like a jet taking off.

Selective memory appears to be a great asset.

Ezyryder · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:09

Sleeve88 said:
2 x Underclocked 570 actually

Actually you are mistaken and I am right, it is two low voltage cherry picked 580 cores.

MichaelM · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:10

I'll be very surprised if it comes with effectively 1.5gb. They felt the need to release a 3gb 580 so if anything needs more than 1.5gb its the 590!

Ezyryder · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:11

MichaelM said:
I'll be very surprised if it comes with effectively 1.5gb. They felt the need to release a 3gb 580 so if anything needs more than 1.5gb its the 590!

I don't know if you have noticed but the 3GB 580s are now EOL...

TheRealDeal · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:13

If it comes with 1.5 gb effective it definately gives the 6990 4gb cards a thumbs up for multi monitor games.

Gerard · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:14

RavenXXX2 said:
Fact is 6990 has is hot and loud, majority of reviews shows this and it's down to the awful fan design, willing to take bets that the 590 is cooler and quieter.

It will obviously run hot due to the fact it has 2 gpu's on board plus 4 gigs of ram. 89c at load seems to be about the max temps for regular gaming with things like furmark obviously pushing it hotter, thus making the fan louder.

lay-z-boy · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:46

1.5gb per gpu?

Fail. Was hoping for 3gb. Doesn't make sense to release a card built for 30"/surround gaming and then give it only 1.5gb of memory, It's too easy to hit the limit.

With the power of two underclocked 580's on tap there's going to be quite a bit of gpu horsepower avaliable so hilarious levels of aa are more than ever, feasible options. I quite enjoy cod4 with 32xaa/8x SS, fps count is fine but I near 1.3gb at 1920x1200.

Oh and to those complaining about noise. Go and buy a passive 3650 or something. Do you really think that two of the fastest cores made by each company on a single pcb sharing a single fan are going to be cool, quiet or sip power?

TheRealDeal · 14 Mar 2011 at 13:52

lay-z-boy said:
Do you really think that two of the fastest cores made by each company on a single pcb sharing a single fan are going to be cool, quiet or sip power?

This basically sums it up. People are expecting to much especially from a stock design.

Skellig · 14 Mar 2011 at 14:12

TheRealDeal said:
This basically sums it up. People are expecting to much especially from a stock design.

True. Very true.

It's just that non-references do so friggin' well that it makes you wonder if they're intentionally just hitting the 'just enough' line to give their card partners a greater marketing spill.

"45% cooler than stock" sounds better than "20% cooler".

RavenXXX2 · 14 Mar 2011 at 14:30

lay-z-boy said:
1.5gb per gpu?

Fail. Was hoping for 3gb. Doesn't make sense to release a card built for 30"/surround gaming and then give it only 1.5gb of memory, It's too easy to hit the limit.

With the power of two underclocked 580's on tap there's going to be quite a bit of gpu horsepower avaliable so hilarious levels of aa are more than ever, feasible options. I quite enjoy cod4 with 32xaa/8x SS, fps count is fine but I near 1.3gb at 1920x1200.

Oh and to those complaining about noise. Go and buy a passive 3650 or something. Do you really think that two of the fastest cores made by each company on a single pcb sharing a single fan are going to be cool, quiet or sip power?

Same as with 580 reference SLI, I don't see people complaining about lack of Vram there, surround gaming is such a niche market it's not important to Nvidia.

Andrew Moore · 14 Mar 2011 at 14:36

Marvin said:
Good to see they've learnt from AMD and put the fan in the middle. That'll be quiet...

Gtx 295 revB

If anything ati have learnt from nvidia.

The cooler looks well specced, let's hope it can cope with the heat