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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

Nexus18 said:
There's been a lot of rumours for a 2019 release too especially with the vega/ryzen sony relation leak in the last week.
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I heard that as well and I did read somewhere that saying 2019 would scare off a lot of console sales, so now I'm hearing 2020 at the earliest. A lot of the latest news on this are saying this.
 
Kaapstad said:
The Titan is already out and does not use GDDR memory or a 384bit or even 512bit bus so using a 384bit bus for a mainstream card would be no problem.

What is interesting though is unless NVidia use a 512bit bus on a mainstream card (not going to happen) 16gb of GDDR memory is also off the table unless they make some awkward compromises elsewhere.
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The Next Titan is already out? won't that make it the current one?

If the next XX80 card is volta with tensor I will give you £20

I don't think its off the table 8gb will be the norm and if there is a need 16gb will come. Like how the 780 had 6gb versions later and I think the 290 only had 8gb version much later.

Its clear nvidia need a large memory bus less than a AMD GCN solution You just got to look at the Fury X and how Vega behaves for that
 
KillBoY_UK said:
The Next Titan is already out? won't that make it the current one?

If the next XX80 card is volta with tensor I will give you £20

I don't think its off the table 8gb will be the norm and if there is a need 16gb will come. Like how the 780 had 6gb versions later and I think the 290 only had 8gb version much later.

Its clear nvidia need a large memory bus less than a AMD GCN solution You just got to look at the Fury X and how Vega behaves for that
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"NVIDIA TITAN V has the power of 12 GB HBM2 memory and 640 Tensor Cores, delivering 110 TeraFLOPS of performance. Plus, it features Volta-optimized NVIDIA CUDA for maximum results."

That's what Nvidia say about it...
 
KillBoY_UK said:
The Next Titan is already out? won't that make it the current one?

If the next XX80 card is volta with tensor I will give you £20
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Yep these days when you buy a Titan from NVidia you get a choice of architecture, Volta or Pascal.

It will be very unlikely that you will see Tensor cores on a dedicated gaming card as there is no gaming software that uses them. Having said that in professional work a Titan V is up to 10x faster than the top Pascal cards in some tasks.
 
Since AMD are way behind you can bet that they're gonna be uber expensive, sold my founders 1080ti for over 600 quid and they're still over that now. So 1170 gonna be at least 400.. probably not even as low as that, sad to say and that's rather high for a xx70 card. Prices will probably go up even more than last time.

No matter, i got a lot of dosh saving for once. Not gonna jump on something really expensive tho as i gave up doing that, I'll see what pricing is like first.
 
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Kaapstad said:
Yep these days when you buy a Titan from NVidia you get a choice of architecture, Volta or Pascal.

It will be very unlikely that you will see Tensor cores on a dedicated gaming card as there is no gaming software that uses them. Having said that in professional work a Titan V is up to 10x faster than the top Pascal cards in some tasks.
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I think/hope :) NV make another Titan X for next gen, something very high end optimised for gaming. The TItan V is nice and was tempted to pick one up until I realised for my use I couldn't justify the cost, andit's more optimised towards professional use I think.

Folks need to stop buying the current Pascal old tat to ensure NV brings us new cards ASAP :p
 
Kaapstad said:
1180 will be around £650 or possibly less as ultimately it is a mid range card.
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1180 midrange? We both have different meanings for mid range!
Imo the next generation won't be too far away. The fact that some people are holding off buying now will be affecting sales imo
IF it want on the horizon I believe NV would tell us not before 2019 for instance to stop people from waiting. I know it's why I am not buying a 1080ti
 
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DarrenM343 said:
I think/hope :) NV make another Titan X for next gen, something very high end optimised for gaming. The TItan V is nice and was tempted to pick one up until I realised for my use I couldn't justify the cost, andit's more optimised towards professional use I think.

Folks need to stop buying the current Pascal old tat to ensure NV brings us new cards ASAP :p
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If NVidia do make a more gaming orientated Volta Titan I don't think it will be any faster than the Titan V but it will be a lot cheaper without the extra DP and Tensor cores. I think such a card will likely be at the same price point as the current Pascal Titan Xp, if NVidia don't sell it at around $1200 people will vote with their wallets and not buy it.

Also if NVidia do another gaming Volta Titan I suspect it will use GDDR6 memory but pack the same amount of SP cores as the Titan V (5120), that will really put the cat among the pigeons in the HBM v GDDR debate.

As to the 1180 I think that will pack 3840 SP cores (the same as a Pascal Titan Xp) on 12nm with GDDR6 memory, this will be enough to give it around 10% performance advantage over the old Pascal 1080 Ti and Titans.
 
bigmike20vt said:
1180 midrange? We both have different meanings for mid range!
Imo the next generation won't be too far away. The fact that some people are holding off buying now will be affecting sales imo
IF it want on the horizon I believe NV would tell us not before 2019 for instance to stop people from waiting. I know it's why I am not buying a 1080ti
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My definition of mid range is a card that sits in the middle of an architectures range of chips. We have already seen the high end next gen card in the shape of the Titan V which packs -

5120 SP cores

2560 DP cores

640 Tensor cores

There is no way any upcoming gaming GPU will pack anything like the amount of silicon the Titan V does nor does it have to for gaming.

As I have said above my guess is the 1180 will pack 3840 SP cores on 12nm which will make it faster than any current dedicated gaming card from the Pascal architecture but it will still be a mid range next gen card. This will be highlighted when next gen gaming Ti and Titans appear which still have the 5120 SP cores the Titan V does but none of the DP and Tensor cores that are useless for gaming.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Since AMD are way behind you can bet that they're gonna be uber expensive, sold my founders 1080ti for over 600 quid and they're still over that now. So 1170 gonna be at least 400.. probably not even as low as that, sad to say and that's rather high for a xx70 card. Prices will probably go up even more than last time.

No matter, i got a lot of dosh saving for once. Not gonna jump on something really expensive tho as i gave up doing that, I'll see what pricing is like first.
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£450 to £480 for the 1070.

£650 to £800 for the 1080.

People will buy them up as fast as they're produced even at that price, even if they're only 25% faster than what we have.

Too many people just can't resist, to be frank.
 
Kaapstad said:
My definition of mid range is a card that sits in the middle of an architectures range of chips. We have already seen the high end next gen card in the shape of the Titan V which packs -

5120 SP cores

2560 DP cores

640 Tensor cores

There is no way any upcoming gaming GPU will pack anything like the amount of silicon the Titan V does nor does it have to for gaming.

As I have said above my guess is the 1180 will pack 3840 SP cores on 12nm which will make it faster than any current dedicated gaming card from the Pascal architecture but it will still be a mid range next gen card. This will be highlighted when next gen gaming Ti and Titans appear which still have the 5120 SP cores the Titan V does but none of the DP and Tensor cores that are useless for gaming.
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I am not sure it will be like this.

Surely after all this time Nvidia have a better architecture for gaming? Or maybe they are saving that for 7nm?
 
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