Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

LoadsaMoney · 26 Aug 2018 at 17:31

Boomstick777 said:

charlief · 26 Aug 2018 at 17:41

So with all the comments so far:

Rtx 2070 equals the gtx 1080ti minus 10%, similar to how the 1070 matched the 980ti. The suggested rtx2070 price is $499 but probably be £499 plus more for custom cards here.

The gtx 2060 is a rebranded gtx 1080, with all those spare pascal gp104 boards knocking around from overproduction. It be £399 plus here.

Or it could be a new turing chip without the rtx features.

If you snag a cheap gtx 1080 under 400 quid, you got a bargain.

Rroff · 26 Aug 2018 at 17:46

charlief said:
Rtx 2070 equals the gtx 1080ti ish, similar to how the 1070 matched the 980ti. You can pick up a new 1080ti for 635, the suggested rtx2070 price is $599 but probably be £599 here plus more for custom cards.

If the configuration is anything to go by I think the 2070 will come up a little short of the 1080ti generally though might give it a run in some cases. (Things like TMUs, ROPS and memory bandwidth, etc. still have significant considerations for traditional rendering even with architecture improvements and clock speed will have some impact there as well).

FoxEye · 26 Aug 2018 at 17:55

ubersonic said:
He highlighted the bit where they point out "And there's a cost to either delaying your purchase or getting an older-generation product so you can save money." and basically replied "Durr, There's a cost to saving money? Hurr Hurr" >.> That was the point I turned it off lol.

I didn't think his rebuttal was that great either.

Obvs "cost" doesn't have to be financial.

But, that said, what exactly is the "cost" of not being an early adopter? E-peen cost? Not top of the "roll of honour" cost?

Even if we acknowledge that we're not talking about monetary cost, what exactly are we talking about?

charlief · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:03

Ml

Rroff said:
If the configuration is anything to go by I think the 2070 will come up a little short of the 1080ti generally though might give it a run in some cases. (Things like TMUs, ROPS and memory bandwidth, etc. still have significant considerations for traditional rendering even with architecture improvements and clock speed will have some impact there as well).

Yes spot on. Just hope I did the right thing getting a cheap gtx 1070ti for 340, I game at 1080p. I can see the gtx 2060 matching the gtx1070ti/80 for £399.

Rroff · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:12

ubersonic said:
I turned it off halfway through, I'm not sure if Steve was pretending to not understand what he was reading so he could mock it or if he's just a little too young to get it but it annoyed me lol.

Other than the take on saving money which was both wrong and right with a bit of misunderstanding but I think intentionally done to mock the rest was pretty much on point.

GN probably hasn't got to the point yet but the likes of some of the others have got to the point where they get a dedicated manager, etc. from YouTube and access to a lot more resources on a case by case basis if it furthers both their channel and what YouTube want to develop which has kind of mixed impact and can sometimes ruin what was otherwise a decent home grown effort.

FoxEye · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:18

charlief said:
Ml

Yes spot on. Just hope I did the right thing getting a cheap gtx 1070ti for 340, I game at 1080p. I can see the gtx 2060 matching the gtx1070ti/80 for £399.

Well a £400 card should really match a £500 card of the previous gen.

Let's be clear tho... if the 2060 is £400, it's not a mainstream card anymore. Mid-range, yes, but not mainstream.

That means mainstream is now the 2050 or even below the 2050.

melmac · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:21

Lokken86 said:
Won't be a lot

I agree, I bet there were very small numbers available worldwide. And how many of those were preordered by people to put up on Ebay and resell? If anything sums up entitlement gone crazy it's this, people buying preorders from Ebay.

melmac · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:23

FoxEye said:
But, that said, what exactly is the "cost" of not being an early adopter? E-peen cost? Not top of the "roll of honour" cost?

Even if we acknowledge that we're not talking about monetary cost, what exactly are we talking about?

He answered that in his article. Quote here

When your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing?

Gerard · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:44

melmac said:
He answered that in his article. Quote here

Whoever wrote that article must have had Jensen Huang pointing a gun at his nuts.

EastCoastHandle · 26 Aug 2018 at 18:57

Ok guys I found some numbers on a 2080 TI. Now take a depth breath here. It's for a unreleased game. A game that is said to use Ray Tracing. However, looking at the screen it doesn't seem like it's enabled.
Furthermore, this is on a triple HDTV setup. Roughly 90 FPS. We don't know how the 1080 TI/1080/FuryX cards perform in this unreleased game as of yet. They will release a demo in early September 2018.

You gotta watch the whole thing. In time you will see the RTX in the case.

Disclaimer:
This might be a marketing tactic. As I didn't see AI cars in the background which would impact framerates for racing games like this.

Gerard · 26 Aug 2018 at 19:20

https://www.techspot.com/news/76085-new-3dmark-benchmark-works-coming-late-september.html

Oh hooray, 3d mark adding it.

LoadsaMoney · 26 Aug 2018 at 19:30

LOL at the Tombi, and Dice aiming for 60fps @ 1080p in BF5 too

chroniclard · 26 Aug 2018 at 19:36

Seems like it might be ideal for slower paced games, RPG/Witcher/Fallout style things but useless for FPS.

Gerard · 26 Aug 2018 at 19:50

https://www.eteknix.com/digitimes-nvidia-forced-aibs-to-absorb-glut-of-10-series-gpus/

Interesting if true. :eek:

Silent_Scone · 26 Aug 2018 at 19:56

lol, sounds about right.

FoxEye · 26 Aug 2018 at 20:02

Gerard said:
https://www.eteknix.com/digitimes-nvidia-forced-aibs-to-absorb-glut-of-10-series-gpus/

Interesting if true.

Wonder if that could be good news for consumers.

Partners with masses of stock, that they really want to sell. 20xx series imminent.

Normally that would mean some nice deals to be had. Although with 20xx prices maybe not.

But at some point, if mining demand really is low these days, they will need to sell these cards to gamers. Now I'd imagine that most people who wanted to buy a 10xx series card at current prices already has done so.

chaparral · 26 Aug 2018 at 20:03

Gerard said:
https://www.eteknix.com/digitimes-nvidia-forced-aibs-to-absorb-glut-of-10-series-gpus/

Interesting if true.

The ending is the scary part

That also means GPU prices will remain much higher since NVIDIA will continue dictating the terms in the near future.

chaparral · 26 Aug 2018 at 20:07

FoxEye said:
Now I'd imagine that most people who wanted to buy a 10xx series card at current prices already has done so.

I would not count on that as a loads of people held off upgrading there GPU due to the very high prices during the mining boom

Gerard · 26 Aug 2018 at 20:19

chaparral said:
The ending is the scary part

In nvidia's ideal world they would be the only one producing geforce cards, in the past they needed partners as they were smaller, now they're much bigger partners basically need to bend over and do what they're told. They misread the crypto market, ordered a load more cards (allegedly in excess of 300k) and got stuck with them as the mining bubble shrunk. Now they're passing the blame around it seems. 3dfx tried the same thing when they bought stb as they wanted everything in house, though financially they were in a really bad position. With nvidia now overclocking their own cards and producing what was previously AIB style coolers it'll be interesting to see if any of their current partners either jump ship or get elbowed out entirely.