Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

[opethdisciple]

If AMD wants to compete with Nvidia on MS RT all they need to do is use last or current gen cards and a bit of driver development and whalla!
Upgrade to die shrunk Vega/Navi and keep your existing R5/R7/R9 series cards for RT.

If it's important enough for AMD to do it. If AMD is ever so inclined how much would it cost you, the consumer?
....
Absolutely nothing! Only the price for admission for next gen AMD gpus that are still focused on regular rasterized games.

If it was that simple don't you think Nvidia would've taken that approach?

Why do yuo think they added dedicated processing cores to handle the Ray Tracing then?

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

are these leaks reliable or or made up?

Made up, because until the games are out of beta and the release drivers in place, you simply can't judge

 

[EastCoastHandle]

If it was that simple don't you think Nvidia would've taken that approach?

Why do yuo think they added dedicated processing cores to handle the Ray Tracing then?

LOL huh?
They are release Turing cards. The business model is Turing cards replacing Pacal. Furthermore, how long ago do you think Turing was in development?
It wasn't last year for starters. And the aforementioned video was a small development team.
For Nvidia it's all about validating their IP. So your questions are making apples to oranges comparisons.

 

[Roughneck]

First Time Spy Benchmark of Upcoming NVIDIA RTX 2080 Graphics Card Leaks

6% faster than a 1080ti on time spy

https://www.techpowerup.com/247140/...-upcoming-nvidia-rtx-2080-graphics-card-leaks

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Even if drivers improve that's still a bad 1st impression for a leak as a 1080 ti can do that with a similiar overclock. Anyone want to post their results to compare?

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

Even if drivers improve that's still a bad 1st impression for a leak as a 1080 ti can do that with a similiar overclock.

Oh yeah, really bad first impression

 

[melmac]

Rumour is they basically moved the cards up a bracket.....basically to squeeze more money out of people. The 2070 is basically (what should have been) a 2060, 2070 labelled a 2080 and a 2080 pushed as a 2080ti. That's why the Ti was also released so soon. So the actual 2080 ti = ??? the next titan maybe?

Easily makes sense considering nvidias greed.

That was the rumour before the cards came out, because people thought the 2070 was going to use the TU106 chip, the 2080 was going to use the TU104 and they assumed the 2080Ti was going to use the same TU104 chip. Instead, so far, the cards have come out using the same tier chips as their Pascal counterparts. The 2080Ti uses the TU102 chip just like the 1080Ti used the GP102 chip. We don't know yet what the 2070 will use.

They haven't moved any card up a bracket. They have increased the price.

Well I was firmly of that opinion for some time. Yet due to being attacked by people who had pre-ordered and told to "shut up I don't know anything" I left it at that.

Yes, because you were wrong. Full stop. The 2080Ti isn't a 2080 that's been pushed up to the next tier.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Oh yeah, really bad first impression

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/3242092
1080 ti
GPU = 10141
GPU CLOCK: 1962 MHz
Same CPU

 

[Zeed]

Titan X
Graphics Score 11 067
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/27034030

 

[harmattan]

Whelp, it seems nVidia is completely controlling the review process (and narrative) from top down. It goes from requiring AIBs to only sample to "preferred" reviewers to forcing reviewers to benchmark on specific drivers in nV's controlled environment.

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution

Takeaway: don't trust any review until official retail drivers are out (not even when the first reviews hit).

Central Committee under Brezhnev didn't have this much control.

 

[AyeAyeAhoy!]

Whelp, it seems nVidia is completely controlling the review process (and narrative) from top down. It goes from requiring AIBs to only sample to "preferred" reviewers to forcing reviewers to benchmark on specific drivers in nV's controlled environment.

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution

Takeaway: don't trust any review until official retail drivers are out (not even when the first reviews hit).

Central Committee under Brezhnev didn't have this much control.

Man, that's pretty atrocious

 

[scubes]

Sounds like if you give nvidia a bad review you’ve basically had it lol...

 

[JediFragger]

Nice vid on RT, just started to watch;

http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/si...man-morgan-mcguire-real-time-ray-tracing.html

 

[bigmike20vt]

Whelp, it seems nVidia is completely controlling the review process (and narrative) from top down. It goes from requiring AIBs to only sample to "preferred" reviewers to forcing reviewers to benchmark on specific drivers in nV's controlled environment.

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution

Takeaway: don't trust any review until official retail drivers are out (not even when the first reviews hit).

Central Committee under Brezhnev didn't have this much control.

i know "where there is smoke there is fire" is a hugely ignorant view to take in most things... ..... but surely there must be a reason NV are so controlling over this? . Assuming it is the same old same old performance bump then why be so cagey, it gets alarm bells ringing far more than just letting happen what ususally happens.

 

[elrasho]

Nice vid on RT, just started to watch;

http://on-demand.gputechconf.com/si...man-morgan-mcguire-real-time-ray-tracing.html

They try so hard to make us think this is a game changer when it's just a gimmick for gamers

 

[AORUS]

I can't believe this Thread is still running, I have seen other forums threads about the new RTX and it all out war on there with allots of hate, arguments, and fan boys battle it out and it make this thread soo tame

 

[ltron]

i know "where there is smoke there is fire" is a hugely ignorant view to take in most things... ..... but surely there must be a reason NV are so controlling over this? . Assuming it is the same old same old performance bump then why be so cagey, it gets alarm bells ringing far more than just letting happen what ususally happens.

Agreed, it's very worrying.

 

[The Tourist]

Whelp, it seems nVidia is completely controlling the review process (and narrative) from top down. It goes from requiring AIBs to only sample to "preferred" reviewers to forcing reviewers to benchmark on specific drivers in nV's controlled environment.

https://m.hardocp.com/article/2018/08/28/nvidia_controls_aib_launch_driver_distribution

Takeaway: don't trust any review until official retail drivers are out (not even when the first reviews hit).

Central Committee under Brezhnev didn't have this much control.

*Puts on dodgy Russian accent*

I have fresh information from Politburo in form of 'dossier' containing 'kompromat' on nVidia and operative with code name 'leather jacket man'. You can have this information, but in exchange you must wear MAGA hat (Make AMD Great Again) and support this with purchase of many AMD GPUs (but only correctly priced ones, not greedy crony capitalist priced ones).

 

[Rroff]

They try so hard to make us think this is a game changer when it's just a gimmick for gamers

If they can get it even half-way like real ray tracing it is game changing though it might take a generation of games before people realise just how much.

 

[AORUS]

If RTX ray-tracing and AI improves future games as promised, but given the two year or so hardware upgrade cycle, NVIDIA might have moved on to other things by the time they come along.