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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

D.P. said:
Anyone who thins Nvidia will sell a 1180 for £1200-1400 is deluded.

Contrary to popular AMD belief, Nvidia's GPU prices have remained relatively static* when accounting for inflation. Prices might increase, but you are looking at $50 or so.

* what has happened is the lowest end has died off due to the rise of APU, and nvidia and AMD have found a viable luxury market segment for Titans etc. That can make it appear that prices have shifted higher but the mid and high end GPUs have kept pace with inflation since the Geforce 2.
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You wrote the same when the last rumour for the price placement of the 1080 over the 980 was out. That Nvidia will never sell the 1080 for £600 over the 980 £400.
 
Panos said:
You wrote the same when the last rumour for the price placement of the 1080 over the 980 was out. That Nvidia will never sell the 1080 for £600 over the 980 £400.
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I think you will find quite the opposite, I predicted the 1080 prices extremely accurately. The 980 prices were lower than expected because the 28nm process was very mature and veyr high yielding, and Nvndia didn't need any fancy memory. The 1080 series went back to the same pricing levels as the 780 basically.

780 had an RRP of $650
980 was $550
1080 was $600, FE was was more.

Before the mining craze there were plenty of decent 1080s for $650, the same as the 780 despite the inflation.

The 1180 will come along at a similar price point.
 
D.P. said:
I think you will find quite the opposite, I predicted the 1080 prices extremely accurately. The 980 prices were lower than expected because the 28nm process was very mature and veyr high yielding, and Nvndia didn't need any fancy memory. The 1080 series went back to the same pricing levels as the 780 basically.

780 had an RRP of $650
980 was $550
1080 was $600, FE was was more.

Before the mining craze there were plenty of decent 1080s for $650, the same as the 780 despite the inflation.

The 1180 will come along at a similar price point.
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980 had to compete with the 290X, which was faster.
Mea culpa the above statement became true 9 months after 980 came out.
 
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KillBoY_UK said:
No it wasn't defiantly not at the time of release
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bigmike20vt said:
you are saying the R290X was faster than a GTX980?

that just isn’t true imo........

loads of benchmarks all showing the 980 ahead, i am linking just 1 because i tend to trust the reviewer.

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/gta_5_amd_vs_nvidia_performance_review/4
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Gregster said:
Nope, not even close.
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Mea culpa the above statement became true 10 months after 980 came out.
 
Panos said:
980 had to compete with the 290X, which was faster.
Mea culpa the above statement became true 9 months after 980 came out.
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The 980 was decently faster than the 290x, even later on the 980 was still mostly faster:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GeForce_GTX_980_G1_Gaming/27.html

E.g., this review nearly 1 year after the 980 release (i;m using a 980ti to get a newer set of benchmarks):
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_980_Ti_Super_JetStream/30.html

At 1080P, the 980 is at 75%, the 290X is at 64%. 75/64 , means the 980 was 17% faster 1 year after the 290X release.
 
It seems crazy that nvidia don't adopt the Amazon plan of dropping their profits a little on each unit and just pricing out all their opposition (and shifting more units). If they actually priced their GPU's so AMD couldn't compete at all and everyone just went nvidia, surely in the long term it'd be a business win?
 
x-st said:
It seems crazy that nvidia don't adopt the Amazon plan of dropping their profits a little on each unit and just pricing out all their opposition (and shifting more units). If they actually priced their GPU's so AMD couldn't compete at all and everyone just went nvidia, surely in the long term it'd be a business win?
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They need decent R&D funding, so can't afford to run with minimal profits. Plus it is not clear if lowering prices would increase sales. Some people will buy AMD cards regardless of price/performance as shown with vega. And I don;t think Nvidia has any intention killing off AMD, they are quite happy to grab 70-80% of the market share at healthy profit margins,, rather than than try and make that 90% with no margins and reduced R&D in the future.

Nvidia sets prices that maximize total profit. They are less worried about total revenue
 
x-st said:
It seems crazy that nvidia don't adopt the Amazon plan of dropping their profits a little on each unit and just pricing out all their opposition (and shifting more units). If they actually priced their GPU's so AMD couldn't compete at all and everyone just went nvidia, surely in the long term it'd be a business win?
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You do understand that this will be very bad for your own pocket yes?
 
Panos said:
You do understand that this will be very bad for your own pocket yes?
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No, I do understand that from the consumer's perspective it's very short term, but the Amazon model to try and enlarge their market share and out-compete rather than just pricing high seems to be working for them. I just find it strange that nvidia aren't more aggressive in terms of their pricing.
 
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