Geil DDR2 @ 800 - 3-3-9-1T

Noto · 5 Sep 2006 at 13:41

The declared spec is 1.2 GHz (600 MHz DDR) at CAS4 4-5-10 latencies. At 800 MHz, the memory is specc'ed to work at CAS4, 4-4-12-2T - but that was far from the truth. We got the modules running with zero problems at CAS3, 3-3-9-1T on both Intel and AMD platforms. This was achieved on more than one motherboard and we managed to get confirmation that this isn't the isolated case with our sample.

Im guessing that is good and we should be drooling? (ive been away from the game a long long time)

http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=34166

Noto · 5 Sep 2006 at 15:52

already on sale at OcUK.. i guess i am really slow in the game. someone slap me

Cob · 5 Sep 2006 at 15:59

Where? The PC6400 seems to be their fastest Geil :confused:

Munromax · 5 Sep 2006 at 16:18

Noto said:
already on sale at OcUK.. i guess i am really slow in the game. someone slap me

Here Take That! :eek:

james32 · 5 Sep 2006 at 16:45

DDR2 1008 CL 3-3-3-15

Gibbo · 5 Sep 2006 at 18:06

Hi there

Can get these parts no problem but they do cost approx £100-£150 more than the current PC2-6400C4 kits we offer from GeIL, so would people pay it for what is quite a small increase and one that only benefits the extreme overclock realler pushing the boundaries?

Plus memory prices at the moment are unreal. Prices are up by over 50% from what they were 4-5 weeks ago.

When we first got the GeIL PC2-6400C4 2GB Kit We sold it at £110+VAT, wheras now its upto £150+VAT and pricing carries on increasing. This is not just GeIL its all memory including Corsair etc. and prices look set to carry on increasing.

DDR pricing has gone unreal too as now production is finishing and hence stock very hard to get and prices will go up massively.

james32 · 5 Sep 2006 at 21:19

lol they look the same memory, just with a diffrent timings and a higher voltages

problay just the same memory type on them just tweaked
not worth 100 or 150 pounds more

yeh gibbo i picked up 4gb of that geil @ the £129 inc vat excellent value
now seeing their @ £170 inc vat

no got a board yet to run them lol

kimandsally · 6 Sep 2006 at 00:57

Ithink you'll find that the cheaper 6400 uses is Elpida, whereas the higher specced uses micron IC, I have read this I haven't actually removed the heatspreaders and looked so I'm not absolutely certain. Also the higher priced is the cream of the crop extra testing etc that's where the price increase comes from labour is not cheap in Taiwan any longer.

Gibbo might be able to confirm it for you.

Sir Random · 6 Sep 2006 at 03:29

kimandsally said:
Ithink you'll find that the cheaper 6400 uses is Elpida, whereas the higher specced uses micron IC, I have read this I haven't actually removed the heatspreaders and looked so I'm not absolutely certain.

Yeah, it might look the same but it has to be different chips underneath. I don't see why it isn't rated 800Mhz though, or given a different name than the cheaper 6400.
I'm gonna try running mine at 667Mhz 3-3-3-15, just to see if those timings are possible with the regular Geil.

james32 · 6 Sep 2006 at 19:22

kimandsally said:
Ithink you'll find that the cheaper 6400 uses is Elpida, whereas the higher specced uses micron IC, I have read this I haven't actually removed the heatspreaders and looked so I'm not absolutely certain. Also the higher priced is the cream of the crop extra testing etc that's where the price increase comes from labour is not cheap in Taiwan any longer.

Gibbo might be able to confirm it for you.

i searched whole web m8 and no1 *** what memorys it is
Elpida memory had problems, look @ ocz wich jumped gun with ddr2
high spec and gskill ,they had to all ditch Elpida and move to micron
so why would geil choose Elpida when it dont work on many chipsets

only diffrence between overclockers geils and that new geil is voltage
geil recommends 2.1 volts for, that sell on overclockers
mine is even stamped maxium 2.1 volts

that new stuff recommends 2.4 minimum
so in my book its all about voltage for ddr2
remember fatbody 9 chips

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94017

Sir Random · 6 Sep 2006 at 20:38

Ok, I've just booted up with my Geil 2x1Gb PC6400 at 667Mhz, 3-3-3-12 @ 2.1v, CPU at stock 266fsb, 4:5 divider.
Seems stable enough, so I'm going to see how far I can push it at 2.1v.

james32 said:
only diffrence between overclockers geils and that new geil is voltage
geil recommends 2.1 volts for, that sell on overclockers
mine is even stamped maxium 2.1 volts

that new stuff recommends 2.4 minimum
so in my book its all about voltage for ddr2
remember fatbody 9 chips

I've no intention of trying 2.4v on mine though, or anything over 2.1v. I'll leave that to one of the guys with money to burn

.

EDIT\
I didn't get very far

. 675Mhz was ok, but 680 gave a bsod after running everest. It probably would reach 800Mhz with 2.4v, but I'm not risking it. I'm happy with 4-4-4-12

ihatelag · 6 Sep 2006 at 21:33

Sir Random said:
Ok, I've just booted up with my Geil 2x1Gb PC6400 at 667Mhz, 3-3-3-12 @ 2.1v, CPU at stock 266fsb, 4:5 divider.
Seems stable enough, so I'm going to see how far I can push it at 2.1v.

I've no intention of trying 2.4v on mine though, or anything over 2.1v. I'll leave that to one of the guys with money to burn .

EDIT\
I didn't get very far . 675Mhz was ok, but 680 gave a bsod after running everest. It probably would reach 800Mhz with 2.4v, but I'm not risking it. I'm happy with 4-4-4-12

Hehe indeed, im just happy I just made 4-4-4-12

And it's solid as a rock!

james32 · 6 Sep 2006 at 22:37

seems 965 chipset and 975 vary

i seen people boot up with 1.8 volts at correct timings
with 975 with geil and gskill GBHZ, but 965 chipset requires more volts to run correctly, and slacker timings for it in order to boot @ SPD timings