Gender equality debate

FoxEye said:
People keep confusing equality of opportunity and equality of outcome. You yourself said that the statistics proved inequality of opportunity. I don't think statistics showing outcomes can prove differences in opportunity, given that outcomes are not solely dependent on opportunity.
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I didn't say the stats prove anything, I've been very careful not to say that.

You're right that outcomes are not solely dependent on opportunity, but they are intrinsically linked.

FoxEye said:
Opportunity can be lost by not being taken.
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Opportunity needs to be present in order to be taken (or lost) in the first place.

VincentHanna said:
I researched a few of the 'facts' he threw out in the Cathy Newman interview.

He said that in "Scandinavia" (that famous socialist country), despite its efforts towards gender equality, there are still "20 men for every woman" in engineering.

I looked up the stats. I found them for Sweden, where it was 2:1. Same in Denmark. Etc etc. I just find the made-up stuff a bit irritating. I'm all for radical thinking and fact-based arguments, but don't make stuff up.
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Thanks VH — makes sense.
 
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if a women can do what I do or better .. great .. if not we are not equal ..
if shes fine lifting a 30-40ltr pan of boiling soup I have no problem with her
if her skills match mine I have no problem with her
if she can debone 40 chickens in 30 mins I have no problem with her
and I've only ever met one ....and I couldn't do enough for her
 
The latest Gender Equality whine was on BBC Breakfast this morning; 60+ yr old women moaning about the raising of the state pension age to match the men's age level, and moaning about having to 'work until they drop', despite the fact that women live longer in the first place!
 
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