I'm sorry, but not really, while i disagree with Farage, there certainly is an unfortunate element that needs to be eradicated in this country, whether it be muslim or a far righter, doesn't matter...they both deserve flogg'ns. /s maybe
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I'm sorry, but not really, while i disagree with Farage, there certainly is an unfortunate element that needs to be eradicated in this country, whether it be muslim or a far righter, doesn't matter...they both deserve flogg'ns. /s maybe
If you don't understand that economies don't follow suit by the second then there is no point in us discussing this.
It's also worth pointing out that GDP is notoriously insufficient at indicating US economic trend, but I suspect that isn't worth discussing with you either. The Guardian presents a pretty graph for you to reflect on instead.
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How would you vote in an EU referendum? If you want out vote UKIP, if you want to stay in vote Labour or Lib Dem. I would implore you to vote in any case, even if it's to spoil your ballot - don't let them write you off as apathetic.
Ah yes, the old "anyone who is concerned about immigration is stupid" mantra of the looney left. In a way it's reassuring that people like you haven't come up with anything more sophisticated that might turn out to be ... effective.
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What has a fictional Muslim "fifth column" got to do with immigration?
I suppose the 7/7 bombings were fictional as well?
So you think that our downturn was caused by a US downturn that happened later and wasn't as steep. Reverse causality, perhaps?
Unsure to be honest, right now I would vote to leave but that could change.
To be honest the area I'm in has been labour since it was created back in 1983 so I'm not even sure my vote would make a difference.
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Do you actually know what "fifth column" means?
What has a fictional Muslim "fifth column" got to do with immigration?
Try reading the link I posted (twice).
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I did. Just because he bandies the bogeyman word "immigration" around a few times still doesn't explain how there is a link between a muslim fifth column and immigration.
Unsure to be honest, right now I would vote to leave but that could change.
To be honest the area I'm in has been labour since it was created back in 1983 so I'm not even sure my vote would make a difference.
Well that's the good thing about democracy when you think about it - very rarely does one person's vote make a difference
I think the point is however that you go out there, cast your vote and get your demographic recognised by politicians and make them work in future to get your vote. At the moment politicians know that there's no point chasing the votes of 18-25 year olds because they don't vote, however elections can be won by targetting policies at the over 65s because they do vote in high numbers. This is why the young have been shafted by our politicians for decades with things like higher tuition fees, cuts to training schemes etc. but they won't dare cut things like the state pension, winter fuel allowance or the free bus pass.
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Also, recently there has been some fuss about individuals having just recovered to the pre recession levels.
What most reports ignored was that after the crash people continued to be better off (ie it increased after the crash), how did this happen? Well those who understand know that labour attemtped to avoid the real impact showing by artifically boosting growth with predominantly welfare in the short term. They kicked the can till after the election, they knew it and it was deliberate.
An example of one of the things they did was to increase the support for people unable to pay their mortagages from 3 to 9 months and also increase the amount payable. It helped to delay the correction that should have happened until after the election when the coalition picked up a more broken economy than in needed to be, purely as a result of Labours attemp to buy their way back into power.
Of course I expect a response of "think of the children" to come back as justification for that specificaly listed change
Of course the other thing the Coalition bashers love to ignore was the Eurozone crisis, as if Labours policy would have be immune to that. The closest to Labours strategy I can see was Frances strategy, thats working out very well isnt it
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Well that's the good thing about democracy when you think about it - very rarely does one person's vote make a difference
I think the point is however that you go out there, cast your vote and get your demographic recognised by politicians and make them work in future to get your vote. At the moment politicians know that there's no point chasing the votes of 18-25 year olds because they don't vote, however elections can be won by targetting policies at the over 65s because they do vote in high numbers. This is why the young have been shafted by our politicians for decades with things like higher tuition fees, cuts to training schemes etc. but they won't dare cut things like the state pension, winter fuel allowance or the free bus pass.
Well if I lived a contested area perhaps I would feel my vote mattered more.
I think there more chance of me winning the lottery than my constituency voting anything other than labour.
We will see, I have no excuse not too, as it's less than a 5 minute walk from my home.
"'The situation that we now have, where an employer is not allowed to choose between a British-born person and somebody from Poland, is a ludicrous state of affairs. The law does need changing, and that if an employer wishes to choose, you can use the word 'discriminate' if you want to, but wishes to choose to employ a British-born person, they should be allowed to do so." Nigel Farage
Look how nicely he phrased the pre-punchline - "employer is not allowed to chose between a British born person and somebody from Poland" when describing equal opportunity employment laws put in place to make sure that any employee is hired on merit rather than race, gender or place of birth. He turns it into "I am not allowed to hire you, my British bro, because the law says I have to hire someone from Poland". Which of course is not true. And then he adds "The law need changing. If I want to discriminate I should be allowed to do so". He literally says if I want to put the sign "no Irish need apply" I should be allowed to do so....
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Do you think society has moved on because of the laws or in spite of them?
There are no where near as many murders as there used to be, ergo any murder related laws are now outdated and should be removed.
Farage has always said he's a libertarian (something I'm not) and what could be more libertarian than allowing employers to employ whomever they want. Realistically how many jobs do you think are going to say something like "no Irish need apply" if the law were modified as Farage suggests?
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