Poll: General election voting round 5 (final one)

Voting intentions in the General Election?

  • Alliance Party of Northern Ireland

    Votes: 3 0.3%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 403 42.2%

  • Democratic Unionist Party

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 59 6.2%

  • Labour

    Votes: 176 18.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 67 7.0%

  • Not voting/will spoil ballot

    Votes: 42 4.4%

  • Other party (not named)

    Votes: 8 0.8%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Respect Party

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 37 3.9%

  • Social Democratic and Labour Party

    Votes: 1 0.1%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 2 0.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 154 16.1%
  • Total voters
    956
  • Poll closed .
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lovelyhead said:
Assuming that Labour can form a government, the SNP can "try it on" as much as they like with no fear of bringing the government down.
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In a technical sense that's true, but a minority government that can't pass any legislation isn't going to last very long and will get slaughtered in a re-election.
 
Phreaky said:
In a technical sense that's true, but a minority government that can't pass any legislation isn't going to last very long and will get slaughtered in a re-election.
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Only if Labour decides it themselves and they would basically be saying to their union overlords that all that money was a waste...Ed would be taking a hike in short. (Which frankly, i would enjoy more than anything...)
 
Phreaky said:
In a technical sense that's true, but a minority government that can't pass any legislation isn't going to last very long and will get slaughtered in a re-election.
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The only way the government would be brought down would be with 66% of MP's voting against it in a vote of no confidence. That is very unlikely to happen.
 
lovelyhead said:
The only way the government would be brought down would be with 66% of MP's voting against it in a vote of no confidence. That is very unlikely to happen.
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I know? The point was that regardless of getting a no confidence vote a government that can't pass any legislation for 5 years is a lame duck. They would be ruined.
 
Moses said:
When I've mentioned the possibility of of a Tory+ government, it's in the context of the SNP not wanting to work with Labour/not wanting to be their bitch if Miliband won't work with them at all. Obviously it's very unlikely they'll be able to govern themselves (+lib dems) unless the SNP are very annoyed by Labour/get shut down by them completely. It's not as though I'm claiming there will be a Tory win, and I've been saying it's most likely we'll get a Labour minority government, propped up by the SNP... I've just always said it's by no means the only realistic outcome.

Essentially you can't necessarily bank on the anti-Tory bloc being a cohesive bloc...
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I agree with you that their is p>0.0 chance that labour will annoy SNP too much, the Tories offer some golden handshake to the SNP, the SNP accepts that, and the lib dems side with the Tories.

But I think there is about as much chance as a labour-Tory grand coalition. Things like a reelection are just more likely
 
Phreaky said:
I know? The point was that regardless of getting a no confidence vote a government that can't pass any legislation for 5 years is a lame duck. They would be ruined.
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They will have that problem with labour or conservative. With that in mind neither major party would risk instability and vote against the other.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
I take it you must be sitting at home in tracksuit bottoms all day claiming benefits then because anyone who pays income tax is better off under the last government than they would have been under labour. Care to elaborate more. You seem to be bothered about the bedroom "tax" which indicates you are obviously on some kind of benefits.
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May be he doesn't want to betray friends and family for a few quid, your description of the unemployed shows how valuable your opinion is.
 
Labour can't form a coalition now anyway.

Mr Farage said his views altered following BBC1’s Question Time on Thursday in which Mr Miliband insisted he would not lead a government supported by the SNP. Mr Farage said: “Mr Miliband, now, cannot be prime minister."

It would be the greatest lie of modern British politics for him now to try and form a coalition with the SNP.
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/57...e-Ukip-to-stop-SNP-holding-key-in-a-coalition

Do you really think he'd scumbag himself ?

Actually he undoubtedly would.
 
thep02 said:
May be he doesn't want to betray friends and family for a few quid, your description of the unemployed shows how valuable your opinion is.
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Im talking about long term job shy, not those who have fallen on hard times via redundancy etc. Pretty sure thats obvious if you use your nose to breathe.
 
Outcast said:
Labour can't form a coalition now anyway.



http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/57...e-Ukip-to-stop-SNP-holding-key-in-a-coalition

Do you really think he'd scumbag himself ?

Actually he undoubtedly would.
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The only way Milliband can't work with the SNP is if he instructs his MP's to abstain on a Tory Queen's speech.

I really, really hope this happens as it will be the end of the Labour party in Scotland forever. The Tory's would be in power because Labour allowed it. That would certainly hasten the next Independence referendum.

Yes, Milliband not being a liar would be the best thing that could happen for our movement!
 
lovelyhead said:
The only way Milliband can't work with the SNP is if he instructs his MP's to abstain on a Tory Queen's speech.

I really, really hope this happens as it will be the end of the Labour party in Scotland forever. The Tory's would be in power because Labour allowed it. That would certainly hasten the next Independence referendum.

Yes, Milliband not being a liar would be the best thing that could happen for our movement!
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More proof that the SNP and the Tories are two sides of the same coin.

One thought I had last night was "cui bono" - who wins from the SNP triumphant? Well that's quite easy to answer as you can just follow the money, who are the main backers of the SNP? A quick Google would suggest that they are the same sort of people - executives, business people, entrepreneurs etc - who would back the Tories in England. Now I can believe they're supporting the SNP because they genuinely want Scotland independent from the UK, but I can't help thinking that they aren't the sort of people who want the sort of socialist paradise the SNP are selling for this election. They might tolerate that now because that's the path of least resistance to independence, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the SNP revert to their Tory personalities later.
 
scorza said:
More proof that the SNP and the Tories are two sides of the same coin.

One thought I had last night was "cui bono" - who wins from the SNP triumphant? Well that's quite easy to answer as you can just follow the money, who are the main backers of the SNP? A quick Google would suggest that they are the same sort of people - executives, business people, entrepreneurs etc - who would back the Tories in England. Now I can believe they're supporting the SNP because they genuinely want Scotland independent from the UK, but I can't help thinking that they aren't the sort of people who want the sort of socialist paradise the SNP are selling for this election. They might tolerate that now because that's the path of least resistance to independence, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the SNP revert to their Tory personalities later.
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Wow.

Please explain in what way are the SNP like the Tories?

As for SNP backers, that would be normal Scottish people. The SNP have the third largest membership in the UK with over 100,000 members. A political party in England would need to have 1 million members to have the same member to population ratio.
 
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