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Genoa (Zen 4) is 128 Cores

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https://adoredtv.com/amd-epyc-genoa-leak-128-cores-16-ccds-12-channel-ddr5-5200/
So on 5NM each 8 core CCX is 69MM2. It also means Zen4 is 8 cores per CCX.
 
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The WikiChip articles on Zen3 seems to be missing sizes and transistor counts (but their Zen2 do have this):
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/cezanne
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/amd/cores/vermeer
But the Apple A12/A13/A14/M1 ones do.
So both the 7nm A12 and A13 had 83 and 86 million transistors per mm².
The 5nm A14 and M1 are both 134 million transistors per mm².
An increase of 58%.
69mm to 80mm is a reduction in size of about 14% but with the increased that's another 36% transistors for Zen4.
Hope they've spent them wisely!
With the new potential to put L3 in 3D stacked chiplets, I would imagine that mainstream CCDs will stick to 32MB as higher end SKUs they can add a cache chiplet.
 
Still 12 months away from zen 4 sigh

and Intel is on track to beat AMD to DDR5 by 6 to 8 months

What? again? that has to be right at some point if its said often enough, i guess.

I should have laughed much harder and louder when Rocket Lake hit, but i though cheering for one over the other was very immature.
It was so tempting tho with all the "Rocket Lake will beat Zen 3" crap that was going on...
 
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assuming thats 128 cores for the top threadripper?

Wonder if that will filter down to a 24/32 core desktop chip (6950...nice) or if itll stay 16 core (which is already loads) and theyll push for efficiency and clock speed...
 
Wonder what the cooling would look like for the high end desktop chip assuming they increase the core count, it's hard enough cooling the 5950X.
 
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