you can educate people as much as you want but most people will just not take the time to opt in even if they don't mind donating however 99% of people that do not want to donate will opt out.
Getting me a new kidney :-)
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you can educate people as much as you want but most people will just not take the time to opt in even if they don't mind donating however 99% of people that do not want to donate will opt out.
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Very best of luck with it OP!
I think I read something the other day that new drivers are being automatically opted in as donors? They should make it everyone though, of course.
I think I read something the other day that new drivers are being automatically opted in as donors? They should make it everyone though, of course.
I truly believe that we should have an opt-out system in the UK.
My argument is really the following:
If you ask most people they have no objection to organ donation at all. However so many people just "never get around" to signing up.
There is a massive percentage of people out there who would be donors if they only took the time to register.
With an opt-out system those people will already be in the donor system - they are covered.
Those people that so definitely do not want to donate their organs (and you ask around, it is the minority) could do the five minutes of opting out either online, via post or over the phone.
An opt-out system would save the NHS a hell of a lot of money - it costs the NHS around £50k to keep me alive every year.
A single kidney could last me anything from 1-25+ years.
It's not just a money thing - but think how much the NHS would save if there were more donor organs available.
My argument is really the following:
If you ask most people they have no objection to organ donation at all. However so many people just "never get around" to signing up.
There is a massive percentage of people out there who would be donors if they only took the time to register.
With an opt-out system those people will already be in the donor system - they are covered.
Those people that so definitely do not want to donate their organs (and you ask around, it is the minority) could do the five minutes of opting out either online, via post or over the phone.
An opt-out system would save the NHS a hell of a lot of money - it costs the NHS around £50k to keep me alive every year.
A single kidney could last me anything from 1-25+ years.
It's not just a money thing - but think how much the NHS would save if there were more donor organs available.
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Just registered 
I'm pretty sure on my drivers licence I signed up for it but I checked it and don't have the donor symbol, did carry a card round with me that said I'd donate if you found me dead but lost that too so at least if its done officially/electronically I dont need either.
Definitely a donate kind of guy, would also like anything thats not useful to otherpeople.. i.e if certain bits are too broken (though I believe all are in full health) to goto science to see what the reason was, hell even for a med student to poke.
Not that I explain myself often in this situation but a lot of you are still randomers to me and this is a popular forum so even more randomers to stalk you, so thats why my names blanked out.. either way, the good intention is there to make others do it
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All the same, I don't want yet more government presumed consent involvement in my life.
Not to mention the fact that the Organ Donation Taskforce recommended against switching to an opt-out system.
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Congratulations and good luck. Can't imagine having to go through something like that.
.Thats all well and good but its people lives we are talking about.
They have a opt out system here in Czech and it works very well.
Not "most", 60%. Whilst a majority it's still only just over 50%.
Really? Are you sure? 60% is not massive.
Not quite true though is it? Firstly an opt out system would prove costly to implement. Security of information being an ever present concern as well. So a robust and secure IT system will cost ten times what it should, being a government project.
Patient groups and members of the public expressed concerns about the dehumanising nature of an opt-out system. Modern healthcare is largely about choice, not having a choice put upon you that you then need to opt out of. People, including existing donors expressed concern about such a system.
Again, it might save money in the long term, but the implementation of such a system would be incredibly expensive.
Plus there is no guarantee it would work. Taking Spain as an example, which introduced presumed consent in 1979, it took ten years before they saw a rise in donations, and the medical establishment in Spain refute the notion that its because of opt in.
http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh.../@dh/@en/documents/digitalasset/dh_090303.pdf
Have a read.
Indeed, read the link I provided.
All the best to you Stoofa, and your wife. Hopefully everything will work out for you and you won't get any complications.
My wife is on the Donor list but I am not. This isn't through choice though. Due to complicated medical reasons I cannot go on the Organ transplant list.
If it wasn't for that I would be on it.
My wife is on the Donor list but I am not. This isn't through choice though. Due to complicated medical reasons I cannot go on the Organ transplant list.
If it wasn't for that I would be on it.
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I'm 24 and I've been on the donor list for a good 5 years . My stuff'll only get eaten by worms if not anyway.
. My stuff'll only get eaten by worms if not anyway.I've just signed up OP, like a few guys above I've been meaning to do it for some time.
Have to confess though, I opted out of having my eyes donated. Just something about it I don't feel comfortable about - maybe I want to see the boat man ;p.
Have to confess though, I opted out of having my eyes donated. Just something about it I don't feel comfortable about - maybe I want to see the boat man ;p.
Almost twice what is required for a Party to win a General Election.
Congrats to you man, I've been registered since I turned 18.
My mother works in a hospital and is more than aware of the difference a donor registered death can make.
It's not just your 'major organs' that are taken, your body is used to help people is so many other ways.
One adults skin can transform the lives of at least 12 burnt children (As you are dead the harvesting can be more aggressive than if you were alive, thus the quantity of bone marrow extractable is a lot higher also.
You don't think about it but each bone in your body can help someone with cancer. A deadly cancer which will kill then, but if you are registered you can provide these people with a new life. (remember there are 206 bones in an adult body)
Your tendons and cartilidge can go to fixing an arm or a leg which otehrwise would have faced amputation and prosthetics.
Your lungs can transform someone, possibly two peoples lives.
Your heart and valves can save a handful of lives.
See, it's not just "Dave needs a kidney" signing up is more than that, besides your hardly gonna be using your body after you die...
Almost twice what is required for a Party to win a General Election.
Hardly comparable, is it?
