Getting messages from recruiter on Linkedin

Raymond Lin

Raymond Lin

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I am NOT active on LinkedIn, in fact I've not updated it in years. Yesterday I got a vague message from someone. I ignored it and today he called me directly on my mobile. My number is not on my LinkedIn page, I guess he must have did some digging after sending the message on LinkedIn.

My question is are these people for real? I guess they work on commission for every person they get put in front of who they hired them. (and is it a scam?)

Hi Raymond,

I am working with a Senior opportunity for an Iconic Brand that is looking to grow their Creative function.

It is a brand you will know.

Whenever you next have 2 minutes I would be eager to talk you through what my client can offer you.

What is the best number to reach you on?
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Tell him to give you the job spec and company name so you can figure out if you're interested. If he won't do that then block him.

And update your LinkedIn so at least if people look you up it's based on current info.
 
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throwaway4372 said:
Tell him to give you the job spec and company name so you can figure out if you're interested. If he won't do that then block him.

And update your LinkedIn so at least if people look you up it's based on current info.
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Throrik said:
I always go back and ask for a job spec, salary bracket and whether it's remote/hybrid/on-site and if they aren't willing to answer those then I don't deal with them.
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Cheers, I will do that.
 
Raymond Lin said:
Yesterday I got a vague message from someone. I ignored it and today he called me directly on my mobile. My number is not on my LinkedIn page, I guess he must have did some digging after sending the message on LinkedIn.
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There is a chance they picked up your CV from somewhere and then decided to reach out to you via LinkedIn before deciding to call you.
 
Throrik said:
I always go back and ask for a job spec, salary bracket and whether it's remote/hybrid/on-site and if they aren't willing to answer those then I don't deal with them.
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I look at it as:
1. If the recruiter is part of a team providing into the company, then acting to block your application to "Iconic Brand" seems like making money..
2. If you can't verify the role is publicly available then it's unlikely to be a real role.
3. When a recruiter goes through the process.. there's a point where there's no control by them - if the contract or offer is dependent on anything todo with the recruiter walk away (and contact the company). Once they're paid - you're holding the can.

It's funny - Linked in shows one role (Google DeepMind) that is reposted 24h ago.. but on Deepmind's recruitment pages, the job description has an end date of 18th October.. this is not the first time it's been reposted. Hence my point about actually checking the role.
 
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NickK said:
I look at it as:
1. If the recruiter is part of a team providing into the company, then acting to block your application to "Iconic Brand" seems like making money..
2. If you can't verify the role is publicly available then it's unlikely to be a real role.
3. When a recruiter goes through the process.. there's a point where there's no control by them - if the contract or offer is dependent on anything todo with the recruiter walk away (and contact the company). Once they're paid - you're holding the can.

It's funny - Linked in shows one role (Google DeepMind) that is reposted 24h ago.. but on Deepmind's recruitment pages, the job description has an end date of 18th October.. this is not the first time it's been reposted. Hence my point about actually checking the role.
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Agreed, mine is more the mentality of generally I'm not looking for a role, so I put the minimum effort in, and ask those questions - when I was looking for a job I was doing more research, but ironically I got the job I'm moving to in January via a cold message on LinkedIn, but they posted the salary and a general job spec, but withheld the company name, which is fairly standard as they don't want to lose their commission - but as soon as they'd confirmed it I checked and the job was live on the company website. My mentality is if you want to speak to me on the phone, do the basics first because I get on average 5-10 messages a day on LinkedIn and if I spent 10m on the phone to each of them I would be losing a lot of time, and if they can't do that then they're not worth the hassle. I'm fortunate that even in this job market I looked for a role and found multiple in less than a few weeks. I see a lot of people who are struggling out there and might need to respond to all of these in the hopes of them being real.

On the other hand, I have had roles which never went live publicly because I've worked with (and I hate to say this) 'boutique' recruiters who are actually good at their job and they don't tend to post on LinkedIn or job boards, but speak to their network directly. The difficulty is differentiating them to the scum out there.
 
Raymond Lin said:
My question is are these people for real? I guess they work on commission for every person they get put in front of who they hired them. (and is it a scam?)
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This may blow your mind, but yes, they get paid to refer people to fill vacancies.

They will be using linkedin premium to do this in bulk and spamming loads of people.

If he's got hold of your number, it must be online somewhere.

More likely to just be a not very good recruiter spamming indiscriminately rather than spam.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I ignored it and today he called me directly on my mobile. My number is not on my LinkedIn page, I guess he must have did some digging after sending the message on LinkedIn.
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Does LinkedIn have the number even if it's not displayed publicly? If not then it's perhaps been pulled from your CV at some point and he's got it in some candidate database but reached out via LinkedIn first.

Raymond Lin said:
My question is are these people for real? I guess they work on commission for every person they get put in front of who they hired them. (and is it a scam?)
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The last part of that sentence seems to be a bit garbled but yes they typically get paid a commission, there isn't anything so far that stands out as a scam here but recruitment scams can exist (asking for money, fraudsters trying to get a load of personal information etc..).
 
Raymond Lin said:
I am NOT active on LinkedIn, in fact I've not updated it in years. Yesterday I got a vague message from someone. I ignored it and today he called me directly on my mobile. My number is not on my LinkedIn page, I guess he must have did some digging after sending the message on LinkedIn.

My question is are these people for real? I guess they work on commission for every person they get put in front of who they hired them. (and is it a scam?)
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I'm pretty sure LinkedIn have been breached in some way. I get calls from suppliers and sales folk via the data I saved there regularly. One even admitted his firm had acquired data from a company in France that had LinkedIn data.

The fact they have mobile numbers must indicate a breach, as like you - I've never made my number public.
 
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Mine is on my cv but not public, and I get called all the time, I’m actually not that bothered about it - I’ve made quite a decent network of recruiter friends who I can talk to.

I guess I’m used to it, by now..
 
They might have been given your name by someone who shared your mobile or they could be using something like Lusher to get your number if you have used it for work in the past.
 
That's a bit of a crap message, but unsolicited messages from recruiters are not generally speaking a 'scam'. Two of my last three jobs came from such things, literally recruiters I didn't have an existing relationship with approaching me out of the blue about roles on LinkedIn.
 
I was approached by an internal recruiter at my current company about the role I’m in now.

I wasn’t looking for anything, and I’d not even heard of them before they reached out :cry:
 
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Ev0 said:
I was approached by an internal recruiter at my current company about the role I’m in now.

I wasn’t looking for anything, and I’d not even heard of them before they reached out :cry:
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Did you get the enumeration package they're offering for your next pay review?
 
Sorry poor wording on my part (I was tired), I wasn’t working there when an internal recruiter reached out about a job I was already doing.

I was working somewhere else, but wasn’t looking for a role, when their recruiter reached out to me from a different new company to the one I was working for.

I wasn’t actively looking, declined their offer to chat to start with, but then did speak to them, sounded interesting, and I’m doing that new job today.
 
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