getting security cleared, what does it involve?

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i've just landed a new job, accepted the verbal offer and am waiting on the contract being posted. i will need to go through security clearance as the company develops military systems.

i was wondering if anyone could tell me what this involves.
my HR contact has gone on his hols now, but i'm all excited about the new job and keen to find out what's what.

it's SC level clearance i will need to pass.
 
Isn't the first part not telling anyone you've got the job :eek:

Hehe just kidding, no idea! Make sure you take down those posters of Che Guevara though just in case they are spying into your Commie window :D
 
Security Check (SC, takes minimum six weeks on average)
This is the most widely held security clearance for posts involving long-term, frequent and uncontrolled access to secret assets and occasional and controlled access to top-secret material. An SC involves a BC, plus checks against the UK criminal and security records (and if appropriate, of overseas countries) and a credit check. SCs are generally reviewed every ten years.

Very valuable in contracting work. I'm spending a few days at the Defence Academy next year in order to get my CTC clearance.

http://www.hays.com/publicservices/security-clearance-made-clear.aspx
 
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[DOD]Asprilla said:
Security Check (SC, takes minimum six weeks on average)

yeah, they told me the SC could take 4 weeks or so, but said as i'm available right away, they may be able to do a quick BC in a couple of weeks and get me in early while they process the SC through.

maybe that'll cover me to make the tea but not do any real work for the first few weeks :)

do you know what the process is then? is it just a lot of form filling, or is their like some interview scenario?

whoops, mised your link, cheers, that just about explains it.
 
I work in IT for the government and it took around 4 months for the clearance to come through. The form you have to fill in is a bit of a nightmare to slog through but once that's done you just have to sit and wait. Got to love the "have you been a member of any terrorist organisations" questions :)
 
Bhoya said:
I work in IT for the government and it took around 4 months for the clearance to come through.

woah, do they have like only one person in the whole country doing the checks?

i can understand it takes a while, but 4 months is a long time!
 
MrWhippy said:
woah, do they have like only one person in the whole country doing the checks?

i can understand it takes a while, but 4 months is a long time!

Could have been worse, a few of the people here are still waiting after 14 months due to problems with the forms and then signatures needing to be renewed each 6 months. The form has to be pretty much spot on the first time you submit it or you're in for a long wait.

Mine was delayed due to me putting down Top-left Flat instead of guessing a flat number for somewhere I stayed 6 years ago.
 
Think yourself lucky you don't have to be DV'd.

I know a few people who have been fow work in NI and with the Security Services.

They find out everything they can about you and then subject you to an interview to find out your propensity for lying. Great fun. The interview is on any subject including your current and past personal life.
 
SC level clearance is a great thing for getting jobs working on government contracts.

Your employer should have a security officer or such like who will send you a whole stack of paperwork to do. This should consist of several forms, including one mainly for your personal details and one for your financial situation.

The first one is simple really, just don't lie on it, because they will know. Also make sure you explain any missing parts in your life. I.e. I had to detail why I lived in four different places in three years (Uni). It also has a brilliant question which asks are you a terrorist or do you know any. It says explicitly no stupid answers, but I have heard stories about people who muck about with that one! It also gets complicated if one or both of your parents were not born here, and they require a lot of evidence to prove you are not a foriegn terrorist! Basically if your parents are from Iran, Iraq, N. Korea etc, forget it!

The second one you will need to list all of your financial obligations. Debts, higher purchance agreements etc. Again no lying here as they will know.

The general gist of it is that they already know all of the answers, they are just making sure you also put down the same stuff, and are not lying about a mountain of gambling debts etc. Also you may be asked to sign the Official Secrets Act. Oh and no jokes around security officers. They have no sense of humour. They are usually quite nice with dealing with people, for example if you get a driving offence or lamp someone in a pub they will try their hardest to make sure you keep your clearance (general rule, if you get stopped for something or done for it, tell them as if you don't, you are likely to find yourself without a job and a bad reference when the do find out).

Clearance lasts for a number of years, but if you leave it 'fades' and you'll have to reapply if you get another SC job over a year after leaving this one. DV, according to my security officer, involves interviews with friends, family, partners etc, and has even been know to have special branch going through your rubbish! (Though I have no idea if this is actually true).

I make it sound all scary and formal, but once you get it, it really opens doors. Just don't take any chances once you have gotten it (e.g. one role I had in a previous job was to escort non SC cleared people around sites, and if I were to let them go to the bog without me, that would be my job and clearance gone).
 
^^

That massive explanation about SC is well blowing things out of proportion. DV as said is the big daddy, and consists of multiple 3 or 4 hour long interviews. They look into everything.

SC is one simple form. Its the same form as BC and CTC (both of which are incorporated into SC)
 
Gilly said:
^^

That massive explanation about SC is well blowing things out of proportion. DV as said is the big daddy, and consists of multiple 3 or 4 hour long interviews. They look into everything.

SC is one simple form.

I had about 6 or 7 to do :confused:

Edit: Er thinking about it my clearance is slightly wonky and called SC+ as its SC and some other fluff because the customer I worked for needed lots of clearance, but is either too cheap or can't wait for DV.
 
Gilly said:
After all, its not what you know :)

Kinda. As a contractor, security clearance is a bit chicken and egg; you need to have it already to get the jobs and you can't get it without having a job that needs it.

So I get a relative to get me into Shrivenham for a few days and this automatically entails a CTC check allowing me to start milking those bulging government contracts.
 
MrWhippy said:
i've just landed a new job, accepted the verbal offer and am waiting on the contract being posted. i will need to go through security clearance as the company develops military systems.

i was wondering if anyone could tell me what this involves.
my HR contact has gone on his hols now, but i'm all excited about the new job and keen to find out what's what.

it's SC level clearance i will need to pass.

Who are you working for?
 
[DOD]Asprilla said:
Usually how people get their clearance.

Gain experience in transferable skill and then go contract. The world will be your oyster.
I'm going the tech management route :)

Been on this contract years and getting bored of tech stuff.
 
Gilly said:
I'm going the tech management route :)

Been on this contract years and getting bored of tech stuff.

:eek:

Only kidding. :D

I remember BC/CTC clearance was only an orange form with about 5-6 pages to fill out. So long as you and your familly have llived in the UK then it should be no problem. My boss was from N.I. and it took about 16mths for him to get clearance.

SC was done by security officer who just took my name, D.o.B. and BC/CTC details and it was done a few weeks later.
 
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