Getting sick of pirates!

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 16:23

ugh, this is getting ridiculous. In the last month we've had our sites ripped off relentlessly.

Firstly,

Ours

Rip number 1

Rip number 2

Then only a couple of weeks ago we launched this

...which has already been ripped here

I'm thinking of putting in some hidden javascript into jQuery so we can control some of the content remotely. In fact the Coffe site left a link to the original stats javascript on our server, so there's a possibility of doing something there - perhaps a javascript alert saying "Free coffee all weekend" in Italian

Any other ideas much appreciated!

SimonCHere · 13 Nov 2008 at 16:44

Nice site.
Bury something in your javascript that checks the host and changes the content?
It probably wont last long after they spot it. More ammusingly, you could make the javascript change random letters on the page?

da_mic_1530 · 13 Nov 2008 at 16:49

OT but I used to drink at a lot of the ARC group's pubs
Nice site

GeForce · 13 Nov 2008 at 16:49

Sagalout said:
...which has already been ripped here

Link doesn't work.

Still, I can imagine this must be very annoying. If it's any consolation I really like your sites. Both look brilliant!

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 16:52

GeForce said:
Link doesn't work.

Still, I can imagine this must be very annoying. If it's any consolation I really like your sites. Both look brilliant!

Ah, looks like my strongly worded email to them might have worked! It was up an hour ago before I sent the email.

Cheers for the compliments

Shoseki · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:03

I don't understand what you hope to achieve. You can copyright logos, but hardly design. Good design is copied EVERYWHERE...

As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

suarve · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:08

Sagalout said:
Ah, looks like my strongly worded email to them might have worked! It was up an hour ago before I sent the email.

Cheers for the compliments

Link still works for me

Nice sites btw.

Messiah Khan · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:13

Shoseki said:
I don't understand what you hope to achieve. You can copyright logos, but hardly design. Good design is copied EVERYWHERE...

As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

But its not just the design they are stealing here. They seem to be copying the actual code etc, because as Sagalout says they have left JS linked to Sagalout's companies server in their code. And in anycase its IP copyright infringment.

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:13

Shoseki said:
I don't understand what you hope to achieve. You can copyright logos, but hardly design. Good design is copied EVERYWHERE...

As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

That's fine, we don't mind people taking inspiration - we even put a tutorial on our blog showing how we built our iphone site. Its another matter entirely when someone, especially another agency, does a file>save as and copies all your source code, flash, charges the client for your work and doesn't even have the intelligence to remove the original google analytics code!

sist_si · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:15

being a developer myself for 10 years i've seen this kind of thing happen myself....pretty low if you ask me. It's true, good design and functionality is there to serve as an inspiration but to out and out copy someone and take the credit is just lazy and just **** behaviour. These people are making money and a name off of their hard work.
I'd be on the phone asap expressing my disgust to the company who copied and their client(s) (which it looks like you've done!).

On a side note, just playing with your 'iphone' site on my ipod touch Sagalout. Very nifty. Simple but effective.

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:15

suarve said:
Link still works for me

Nice sites btw.

Try a CTRL+F5 refresh - we're just getting a 403 error now, as if they have deleted everything from the directory

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:17

sist_si said:
On a side note, just playing with your 'iphone' site on my ipod touch Sagalout. Very nifty. Simple but effective.

Cheers, was just an experiment really.

Google iPhone website and we're in good company on the first page of google for it though

Dj_Jestar · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:52

Sagalout said:
Try a CTRL+F5 refresh - we're just getting a 403 error now, as if they have deleted everything from the directory

You're thinking of 404.. 403 is because they have denied access to the location.

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 17:57

No, 404 is page not found, 403 is forbidden access, and appears when you go to a directory without an index/home file.

suarve · 13 Nov 2008 at 18:33

Sagalout said:
Try a CTRL+F5 refresh - we're just getting a 403 error now, as if they have deleted everything from the directory

ah, that's better

Dj_Jestar · 13 Nov 2008 at 18:41

Sagalout said:
No, 404 is page not found, 403 is forbidden access, and appears when you go to a directory without an index/home file.

...

that's totally what I meant and got my post mixed up. I meant they have restricted access, they may not have deleted the content..

That site said:
Server Error
403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.

Sagalout · 13 Nov 2008 at 21:47

bah, sites back up and running now

Its almost worth the legal fees just for the principal of it.

fishfishfish · 13 Nov 2008 at 22:21

That's fine, we don't mind people taking inspiration - we even put a tutorial on our blog showing how we built our iphone site.

I was reading that the other day. Very interesting technique.

intellix · 13 Nov 2008 at 23:28

lol, those sites are basically copy + paste with a different logo and main image

I really should look into JavaScript as I come across cool effects that look as if they've been made in Flash only to find they have not :O

blade007 · 13 Nov 2008 at 23:39

very nice sites sagalout.

I like them a lot

People ripping your hardwork is a problem. Perhaps find a way to protect your javascript, there are encoders around, which makes the task of copying a lot harder.

You guys look as though you know how to work Jquery very well.