Gigabit ethernet

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Hello guys,
looking for a little advice,
i currently live in the styx, away from my local exchange and can only get 2 mb broadband :0(

anyways, i have loads of devices on my home network,

my current setup is, adsl router modem wifi downstairs>powerline>powerline upstairs>wifi router for upstairs>router for tv cabinet, all these connections are hard wired,

i have tv's xbox one, NAS, multiple pc's skybox, iphones, tablet upstairs connected to the wifi,
and a couple of pcs downstairs,

now i notice some lag, so upgraded my powerlines to 1gb ones, belkin and have 2 belkin routers gigabit ethernet n600 coming,

as the 2 upstairs routers will be wired to the downstairs one, and the downstairs router/modem is only 100mbps, and as that provides dhcp to other devices, will my network run at 100mbps downstairs and 1gbps upstairs, or will it all be hindered by the slower router/modem?

do i need a better router modem to benefit from 1gbps?

thanks in advance..
 
You don't mention which router you have, but most home routers are 100MB for the low-mid range stuff. A network will only run as fast as it's slowest link.

In what way are you seeing lag, file sharing to the NAS, streaming, browsing the internet? Is it when connected wireless or via the power line adapters?
 
Hiya mate i think youve answered my question, the adal router will be an ee one 10/100,

Looks like ill need to update it to a gigabit one... I may as well seen as im replacing my two other routers for new gigabit ethernet ones, ive just upgraded powerlines from 200mbps to 1gbps belkin ones


Any reccomendations for a cheap router sub £30 on ebay that will suffice?cheers
 
dipsta said:
Any reccomendations for a cheap router sub £30 on ebay that will suffice?cheers
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Sorry off the top of my head I can't think of any gigabit router for that sort of money. I would look at a Netgear/Asus gigabit ADSL router and then rather than another router a simple switch for your TV directly connected to the Ethernet port of the ADSL router.

Then use a power line adaptor to get the network to the upstairs and have another switch there. I would test the wireless signal upstairs with the new router to see if it was better before putting another wireless point in. You may find with a good wireless router the wireless signal is better. If not you could then use a wireless access point directly connected to the upstairs switch.

There are a number of ways to achieve what you are looking for.

Having said all this something that occurs to me. Does your NAS (what make/model) support DLNA, what are you streaming to and where are they in relation to each other. It could be possible to remove the lag with a rejig of your existing equipment.
 
Minstadave said:
I'm not sure that's true.

I had two PCs sharing a gigabit switch that was connected via a powerline adaptor to a 100Mb router downstairs, I got gigabit speeds between the two PCs on the same switch.
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That's because it isnt true.

The only times you will be restricted to 100mb is when information has to go through the 10/100 mb device. Any devices connected to the gigabit routers upstairs will communicate between themselves at gig speeds.

My setup is

Sky router downstairs - connected via cat5e to a DLink running dd-wrt upstairs for wi-fi, then connected to this is a 5 port gigabit switch which has all my upstairs PCs connected to it - all of them communicate between themselves at gig speeds even though both routers are 10/100 only.
 
Sorry for the confusion I should have made things a little clearer. I was also making a few assumptions along the way which is something I should get out of the habit of doing.

Assuming the ADSL router has a 100Mb switch and the WiFi router also has a 100MB switch then putting a 1Gb powerline between them will make no difference as it can only run at a 100Mb. The same as plugging a PC directly in to it would only allow that PC to run at a 100Mb.

If he has a 1Gb router/switch on the other end then the connection to the ADSL router is still only a 100Mb as it's limited to the speed of the ADSL routers Ethernet ports. Any device directly connected the 1Gb router/switch will run at gigabit speed because the traffic isn't leaving that switch at this point.

As to the latency the OP is experiencing to determine where that is coming from we need more information from the OP.

*edit* I've also just taken a look at the Belkin N600 the Ethernet ports on it are only 100Mb not gigabit.
 
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Right guys currently have a dgn2000 router modem 100mbps connected cat 5e to powerline 1gbps, to upstairs powerline 1gbps, connected to belkin f7d4301 1gpbs via cat6 which has my nas cat6/pc cat6/wifidevices (iphones/tabelt) connected, then via cat6 to another f7d4301 1gbps router which has the telly/xbox/sky/bluray connectes with wifi turned off.


I bought 2 routers as they were cheap i got the pair off ebay for £29 for the pair.

I havent got the belkin routers yet but this is my preferred setup,
At this juncture im only concerned that upstairs runs fast as i rarely show downstairs,

Ive upgraded the belkin powerlines from 200mb to 1gb and it appears to be much quicker.

So will i have to go the whole hog and upgrade the router modem to a gigabit one to make upstairs run at 1gbps??

Ive noticed lag accross the original 100mbps upstairs network when streaming video from pc to tv, or from nas to pc etc, especially when my pc's doing live filesaves to my nas.

Thanks peeps
 
So to confirm there are some
Devs upstairs connected to thenrouters by either 100mbps cat 5 and gbps cat6,
And all major deviced ie routers and powerlines are connected via cat 6 to gigabit ports witht the exception of the downtairs modem/wireless router which is connevted via 100mbps as it doesnt have the gigabit ports
 
You can mix and match 100Mbps and Gigabit devices on the same network. If the entire route between two devices supports Gigabit then you'll get a Gigabit connection. Having 100mbps devices connected will make no difference.

Don't get fixated on the network cable type. Both Cat5e and Cat6 have the same support for Gigabit. Even Cat5 (without the e) will usually handle Gigabit over shorter distances.
 
bremen1874 said:
You can mix and match 100Mbps and Gigabit devices on the same network. If the entire route between two devices supports Gigabit then you'll get a Gigabit connection. Having 100mbps devices connected will make no difference.

Don't get fixated on the network cable type. Both Cat5e and Cat6 have the same support for Gigabit. Even Cat5 (without the e) will usually handle Gigabit over shorter distances.
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Thats right, most CAT 5 will do it, often its only called CAT5 cause it hasnt been tested to the same standard as CAT5e, you could even find a better quality CAT5 cable then CAT5e. CAT6 is for GB and up.

I run a CAT5e home networking setup for gigabit thats all in the walls with wall ports, quite a lot of cable which all terminates under the stairs, dont get any issues.
 
The 'gigabit' powerline adapters won't actually run at gigabit speeds.

Powerline is poor compared to actually running a network cable.
 
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