Gigabyte DS3P / OCZ SLi Memory Spec/Compat. Check

DoogzR

DoogzR

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Here's a system (and some other stuff) I'm about to order, if anyone fancies checking it out and giving it the once over...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 "LGA775 Allendale" 1.86GHz (1066FSB) - Retail
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2 (OCZ2N1066SR2GK) x 2(!!!)
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B Heatpipe CPU Cooler (478/754/939/940/AM2/LGA755)
Western Digital Raptor 150GB WD1500ADFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (new boot drive)
OCZ GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-620HXUK)
oh yeah, and a
Gigabyte GA_965P_DS3P

I'll be waiting til OCUK get the Gigabyte DS3P(Rev 3.3) in, or else source from somewhere else. Actually, it's not like them not to have it already!?

I know the OCZ ram is overkill, but I don't want to be buying another 4Gb for quite some time, so I'm figuring when I 'upgrade' to a quad core @ 1333 fsb further down the road, it'll fit right in. (Given the comments left on it's page regarding this ram, and it being the lowest priced chips for guaranteed micron D9 chips helps too). You never know, I might even ditch the DS3P and get a 680i to go SLi when the time comes(2008/2009/2010) to go 2xGTX. Or just pop the quad in and enjoy the 1333fsb on the DS3P and crank the mem up.

The truth of the matter is the cost of a 680i board with a quad core is silly compared to DS3 and 6300 for not much benefit (thanks easyrider!). Not to mention the alleged Intel price cuts coming soon (which would allow me to buy a 6300 now and a Q6600 later, throw the 6300 away and still be cheaper than the Q6600 is now!).

Has anyone tried this RAM in this motherboard (or maybe a DS3/DS4/DQ6)?

Any other comments about spec?

I will be mainly playing FPS games, encoding and yes, will be overclocking as much as poss (hence the DS3P & 6300). :-)

I'm sure I read someone's comment about RAM being the limiting factor in overclocking the DS3/6300, but I may be wrong. These chips would obviously give it some headroom.

FYI - I'll also be butchering my current AMD system for the case, additional drives (raptor, barracuda, dvd), audigy 2, etc. and my monitor is a BenQ FP241W (hence the GTX!).

I've checked out these forums a lot, and have learned an absolute ton of stuff, so am trying not to be lazy in this request... it's more the ram and mobo compatibility that I'm interested in.

And yes, I've read all about the 4gb/vista 32/DDR3 coming soon/quad core not needed, etc, threads, but like most people here, I'm hoping it'll all come good in the end. Given I've had my Athlon64 system for 3 years, expect at least that out of this too... with the obvious quad core upgrade at some point.

Cheers!
 
DoogzR said:
Here's a system (and some other stuff) I'm about to order, if anyone fancies checking it out and giving it the once over...

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 "LGA775 Allendale" 1.86GHz (1066FSB) - Retail
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC2-8500 1066MHz SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel DDR2 (OCZ2N1066SR2GK) x 2(!!!)
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B Heatpipe CPU Cooler (478/754/939/940/AM2/LGA755)
Western Digital Raptor 150GB WD1500ADFD 10,000RPM SATA 16MB Cache - OEM (new boot drive)
OCZ GeForce 8800 GTX 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
Corsair HX 620W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-620HXUK)
Gigabyte GA_965P_DS3P
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The OCZ that SLI-ready thing is a bit of gimmick, just get some normal OCZ or if you want 4GB's get the Kingston HyperX

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-021-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=

HSF you might want to get a Tuniq Tower as I think they are better then the Ninja

Raptor IMO not worth it a Seagate 7200.10 could beat it on most tasks

Part from that looks OK
 
4gb is a complete waste of money. If 4gb becomes necessary in the future, just drop another 2gb in then. Until then, stick with 2gb.

Also, yes, rev 3 boards will support 1333 FSB, however I recommend you just go with a 680i board (you obviously have the funding).

The ram will not boot in the DS3 straight off, so expect to have to source a a ****** stick to adjust voltages with first.


Also, that ram is complete NO SWEARING!. Just get some DDR2 800 stuff and be happy with that.
 
@Will_3rd - Thanks for your comments! ;-)
I'm aware of the SLi badging nonsense, and I know all it does is carry a few more SPD settings for buffoons to overclock easily with... or should I say, let the mobo overclock for them, however my eye was firmly on the speed rating and timings of the memory and the chips involved, which is why I was mentioning about future proofing a bit more than normal.
Kingstons were a good suggestion and I'd checked them out, for all the obvious reasons... 2*2 sticks is better than 4*1 for timings.
Yonder madshrimps.be did a round up of coolers which I'd checked out and there only seemed to be a "baw hair" of a difference between the Tuniq and the Ninja... don't think they were overly happy with the weight and fixings of the Tuniq which made me a little wary, but if you're recommending it, then cool.
Having used a Raptor 74Gb for my boot drive for quite a while I think it's pretty fast and certainly whaps my Barracuda 7200.10 from a 'feel' perspective. Tho, not having a 7200.10 as a boot drive I can't really compare. I'd checked out tomshardware.co.uk and a few others and the Raptor 150/16Mb seemed to eventually rise to the top of the pile. Ok maybe not for throughput, but for random access?!!?
@melbourne720 - Cheers for 2nd'ing. Good to get some buy in from someone else.
@Stabhappy - 4Gb is unnecessary? I beg to differ. You've obviously never been doing things to exhaust 2gb of ram. I'm not talking games, but multitasking and some particularly heavy video editing progs - Adobe Premiere Etc. Granted I didn't mention that specifically in the initial post.
I've whapped 2gb of ram on my pc at work without doing anything clever. Though given the amount of apps I have open is a lot to do with it. I'm an Oracle DBA. I think people have mentioned in previous posts about just having things run more smoothly with 4gb as it keeps the swap file at bay.
Maybe I could spring the extra bucks to get the 680i, but what's the point if the same can be achieved with a DS3P? Easyrider made a point of this recently in the forums - same performance for (nearly) half the cost. In all likelihood, the GTX won't be around long before the next gen kicks in again and so we'll all be on to the 9900's by then. ;-) Bye-bye SLi.
Your telling me the ram won't boot straight off is exactly what I wanted to find out, so cheers for that mate! Though it's hardly NO SWEARING! now is it...maybe for the price compared to the OCZ 6400 it's not worth the extra 60 bucks a pair, but it is Micron D9 chips.. and as someone else pointed out... you get what you pay for.
At the end of the day, I'm sure you're right... there's too much thought goes into some of this stuff... just get a 6300/DS3P/OCZ6400 and I'd never know the difference.......
Peace bro!
 
They have the DS3 Rev3.3 in, not sure about the DS3P. My mate ordered a DS3 through me, from here, about 2 weeks back, and its a rev3.3 board. RAM wise, why not look at the Geil stuff, they have some nice, well priced dual channel kits about, especially if the G.Skill is still having compatability issues!

The random access is faster on the Raptor HD, however the average throughput is meant to be higher on the seagate 7200.10, and for video editing etc I'd imagine average read and write would be more important than seek speed, due to the sheer data load of high definition video editing, but I could be wrong, and Im sure you'd know better on that one!

My mates currently got the E6400, 2GB of G.Skill and DS3, chugging along happily at 3.2Ghz (8x400). He chose the E6400 over the cheaper chips, due to the higher multiplier than the E6300 and it gave him a higher base clock speed incase he got a duff clocking board/CPU.
 
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@Alexrose1uk - yup, cheers for the info.
Holding out for for DS3P as I have need for firewire and might as well take advantage of all the other 'upgrades' this board has for the near enough same price as the orginal DS3.
I have no beef with the Geil or normal OCZ ram, just wanted to try something different and build a wee bit of future proofness into the whole system. Like I say, upping the memory spec (speed/timings) ought to allow for better OC - at least it won't be the limiting factor. (If someone wants to do the math and prove this wrong, then fair enough, but I'm sure I've read comments here and articles round the web regarding this).
I'll be taking my existing Raptor 74gb and re-using it for something (cache files, temporary work area, games?) and also my seagate barracuda 7200.10, which I'd like to keep Windows off of and just utilise it as a data drive, like I do now.
I like your logic, and will consider the E6400 or may even spring for a E6600... my main goal was to keep it sort of cheap for now, then go quad sometime later...
 
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