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1 x Asus X99-S - Intel Core i7 5820K Six Core CPU & Motherboard Bundle ***£30 Saving*** £485.98
1 x Asus GeForce GTX 980 DirectCU II OC Strix 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £469.99
1 x SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1000W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - White £149.99
1 x Samsung SM951 256GB M.2 PCI-e Gen3 8Gbps x 4 Solid State Drive (MZHPV256HDGL-00000) £129.95
1 x Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-17000C16 2133MHz Quad Channel Kit (CT4K4G4DFS8213) £119.99
1 x Noctua NH-D15 Dual Radiator Quiet CPU Cooler with two NH-A15 Fans £77.99
1 x Coollaboratory Liquid Pro Liquid Metal Thermal Paste £8.99
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The stars are almost aligned, getting a very itchy trigger finger
£1,202.39 ex VAT today... is that the best its going to get....

Will be going into a cosmos II case..

Looking for VFM (value for money), silence outside gaming and <30db at 2m during gaming, max overclock of cpu, pwm fan control of cpu&case fans in proportion to temp

will be used for running a media server, HTPC, a VM, 10 SATA HDDs, (all always on), gaming@1080p on projector, audio video connection via hdmi to onkyo amp+B&W 623/624 speakers..

whats slightly holding me back
imminent usb3.1 revision of asus board / and concerns with usb on asus expressed on these forums.
black version of power supply - dont want any silly leds..
possible improvement in NVME version of ssd
possible vfm upon release of AMD 300 series,
possible vfm from skylake build if somehow improvements are massively greater than predicted.


all feedback / advice welcome.

useful links
https://toptechcashback.com/uk/en/pages/cpumb/qualifying

useful notes https://www.ramcity.com.au/blog/m.2-ngff-ssd-compatibility-list/189#comment-1955474346
Update for the compatibility list above: Just installed an SM951 on an ASUS X99-A motherboard and it works flawlessly as the boot drive with Windows 8.1.

Just make sure that:
- Win8.1 installation is started from a UEFI USB drive as explained in the post
- The CSM settings in your X99-A BIOS are set to 'UEFI first' for the PCI-Ex storage

Also something that's a bit unsettling: an unformatted, out of the box SM951 drive doesn't appear at all in the BIOS when you power up your computer the first time, but is recognized by the Windows installer in UEFI mode.

Once the Windows 8.1 installation has completed the SM951 does appear in the BIOS bootable drive list as usual :-)
 
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That paste is nasty stuff, etches the surfaces of the cpu and cooler and if you get it on anything its a nightmare to get of and is electrically conductive.

the cooler comes with decent paste anyway.

Memory is a bit "weak" try 2400Mhz Teamgroup or something.
 
thanks

the cooler comes with decent paste anyway
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people have said that despite these downsides it offers the best temperatures, and if its only going to be applied once carefully and left for life of machine then theres no downside..,,wrong analysis/conclusion? doesnt offer the temperature gains?
 
It offers good gains for a thermal paste, just an absolute biotch to use, think of it like the molten T1000 which you have to spread around (you cant just apply it and then clamp the cooler down and hope it spreads) you have to spread it on both surfaces and then bring them together.
 
Memory is a bit "weak" try 2400Mhz Teamgroup or something
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i believe its been well shown that memory mhz is of no practical real world value and any 1% more paid will get less than 0.1% benefit...when i asked for evidence on the improvement/value for money on these forums no one provided any...so i remain unconvinced but very open to persuasion...
 
stulid said:
It offers good gains for a thermal paste, just an absolute biotch to use, think of it like the molten T1000 which you have to spread around (you cant just apply it and then clamp the cooler down and hope it spreads) you have to spread it on both surfaces and then bring them together.
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ok thanks..i am confident to apply it properly / carefully, so would hope to yield its benefits...
 
Yep, I love liquid metal paste as its the absolute best, but its a curse to remove. There's a new paste due soon, thermal grizzly. Apparently temps to match liquid metal, but non conductive and easy to clean.
 
stulid said:
Its an extra £5 for the faster RAM.
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fair enough, I did nt realise it was that close; but it needs to be better for that £5, thats how tight i am.:)

My gut feel is that the products are of the same class, just run at different cl, voltages and timings... no doubt i will try to get down to CL 11 for kicks like others have as long as the voltages are not too high...
 
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I know nothing stays the same...but if your willing to play the game...

Guess retailers are not betting on AMD releases rocking the nvidia boat?
 
Not for draw...This 1KW PSU by my reading of review sites is the quietest PSU at the sort of draw this machine will be pulling...c. 400W during gaming 100W during serving only.

optical drive...do people still use those?
 
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1 x Samsung SM951 256GB M.2 PCI-e Gen3 8Gbps x 4 Solid State Drive (MZHPV256HDGL-00000) £119.99
1 x Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-17000C16 2133MHz Quad Channel Kit (CT4K4G4DFS8213) £119.99
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not much change...300 series doesnt exactly set the world alight..
still no sign of asus usb 3.1 motherboard revisions @ocuk...and no more confidence expressed in the current asus usb challenges...makes me want to wait...consier another brand.
ocuk dont seem to be able to keep the nh-d15 in stock for some reason.
keen to confirm 10% efficiency rating for platinum psu otherwise wait for announced titanium, given how long this machine will be drawing 10%.
 
A 980 isn't a very good choice at the moment, especially given its price. The Fury and Fury X are going to be out within weeks. The Fury X less than a week, so you'd be much better waiting for that to see how it performs.
 
Quartz said:
You can get 460W and 520W fanless PSUs - I use one of the former.
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Are there any downsides to fanless..

Ive read that any airflow noise decreased by lack of psu fan has to be offset more by other fans further away...So nothing is gained - unless presumably the system is passive/fanless completely...which with 10 HDDs, an oced 6 core cpu and a meaty GPU it wont be...

Cant argue with the prices though...
 
ginjaninja said:
Are there any downsides to fanless..

Ive read that any airflow noise decreased by lack of psu fan has to be offset more by other fans further away...
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My FT02 was completely fanless apart from the GPU. You do have to think about how the heat flows. With Silverstone's rotated cases the heat flows up and out, rather than up and onto another component.
 
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1 x SuperFlower Leadex Platinum 1000W Fully Modular "80 Plus Platinum" Power Supply - White £165.95
1 x Samsung SM951 256GB M.2 PCI-e Gen3 8Gbps x 4 Solid State Drive (MZHPV256HDGL-00000) £119.99
1 x Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-17000C16 2133MHz Quad Channel Kit (CT4K4G4DFS8213) £119.99
1 x Noctua NH-D15 Dual Radiator Quiet CPU Cooler with two NH-A15 Fans £77.99
1 x Coollaboratory Liquid Pro Liquid Metal Thermal Paste £8.99
Total : £1,287.47 (includes shipping : £8.00 Ex.VAT).



heart is set on 1000W SF platinum...its not the most efficient in 40w-100w range (EVGA G2 750W would have been better), but the SF 100W platinum will be silent in Serving/HTPC use (like the evga) but only 25DB up to 600W...which i may get close to with overvolting/overclocking but unlikely to exceed according to http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp.
will keep an eye on the titanium reviews with 140mm fans but difficult to see they be good vfm.

switched to 390 8GB, hopefuilly right choice in light of DX FL and Memory feedback over the longer term...will keep looking at 2nd hand market.

Preffered board is asus X99-A usb 3.1..it has enough sata ports (10)..just waiting for ocuk to stock.
 
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