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Given up on HD5770 !!

Hi matey.. Apologies but the info i gave was a little vague.

Righty this is what i have done and tested it twice now.

Uninstall all gfx drivers
Install the latest 9.12 drivers and reboot.
Go into CCC then to ATI Overdrive click the key so you can use the OVERDRIVe feature.
at the top of the page choose options/profiles/profiles manager.
create a new profile called nocrash then save and close CCC.
then go to C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\ATI\ACE\Profiles and right click and choose Edit on the nocrash.xml

change the values to this:

<Feature name="CoreClockTarget_0">
<Property name="Want_0" value="30000" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="60000" />
<Property name="Want_2" value="93000" />
</Feature>
<Feature name="MemoryClockTarget_0">
<Property name="Want_0" value="120000" />
<Property name="Want_1" value="120000" />
<Property name="Want_2" value="130100" />
</Feature>

here is a copy of mine if you dont want to edit. http://cid-c3a6f7e37d18c490.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/MISC/NOCRASH.xml
save and reboot.
now go into ccc then choose options/profiles/profiles manager
then choose NOCRASH in the profile name from the dropdown box.
then choose activate and close.
then when you look at ccc ATI overdrive section under Current Values at the bottom it should show GPU Clock as 300Mhz and the memory clock at 1200Mhz.
And this shouldnt crash or driver not respond any more.

I take no responsibility for any of this but its how i have sorted mine and hope it will help others.

:)
 
Many thanks skyline :D

I have just disabled the HDMI and waiting for it to die again, then al try changing the profiles.... although me and Devrij are having diffrent problems i figured its worth a try.
 
IceWind said:
the problem I have about buying lower end gear of new gen tech so early is that these will generaly be failed high end stock.

They wont be specificly made 5770 but rather 5870 dies that fail testing so you are effectivly getting a faulty chip.

Everybody does it, AMD, ATI, INTEL and nvidia. Id rather buy something that has passed testing for what it was designed for rather than getting flogged as lower end chip because it failed as a high end.
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thats just a bad way of explaining it, they are not faulty, they just dont perform as highas the top end. They are all the same chip anyway.

@ OP

Correct me if ive missed it but have you tried it in another system yet?
 
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it is true though. No manufacturer purposes makes low end chips of a new gen card. All the dies were made to be eaither 5850/70 or a 5970 gpu, therefore if it does not perform to the standards of ones of thoses gpus then it is technicly faulty.

The problem with re-distibuting these gpu as a mid/low end card is that there is no way of determing the actuall real life performance of them till they are out there on the market, by wich time its already too late and the consumer has had a bad experience.

Just because ATI/Nvidia limit the shaders and clock speed of the faulty die does not mean that they are going to produce a working gpu out of a faulty one.

Later down the line when the yields are up and the process more refined newer revisions of the cards come out.

It takes along time after a new gen of cards are out to be able to accuratly predict what dies will be capable of what, at the moment its a guessing game. The dies that work get thrown into the high end equipment the ones that dont get downclocked until they show some sort of life, tested very lightly, slapped togeather on a gpu thrown on a pcb and there you go a 5770 or a gts350 or wahtever the case my be.

Potentialy you could flash the gpu into anything you wanted if it was not for other drawbacks implemented on the pcb to prevent it.

Its the same with the newer TriCore and DuelCore Amd chips, they are all Quad Core Cpus, as represented by the fact that a lot of motherboards out there alow you to unlock the dorment cores, but there is a reason as to why they are dorment. They did not pass quility checks therefore are not sold as Quad Cores. Its just a way of them being able to shift, what would be in any other industry a failed product that would normaly be written off affecting the company profits.
 
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Tried the different profile (minus the overclock as well as with), no joy. No luck with uninstalling hdmi audio driver either. System is at stock settings (with memory voltage at 1.9V not stock 1.8V), with C1E off and cpu volts set at stock 1.3V (way more than needed for 3.0GHz). Can't see it being an unstable system there.
 
well... i have had mine yet to crash scince disabling hdmi, but i have not done much browsing and it is usually fine wen idle on desktop. will keep dated so as it crashes which i am expecting it to...

for record also mine is on 2.2v for ram @ 1066mhz and tbh i think my Vcore is on auto so prob around 1.3v for my Q@stock. but still i have tested my card in 2 other rigs i know its not my system.
 
Hope that hdmi driver fixed it bro! I can play bf2142 for as long as I like with no issues, run furmark fine, and yet vantage and dirt 2 (ie anything gpu-heavy) cause driver crashes. That profile fix above did help though. Not sure why, but at least I can run furmark now.
 
they are DX11 games? ... have you got it installed
to think of it am i on DX10 ? ....i would presume CCC installs the latest *goes to check*

Start>Run>dxdiag - if anyone is intrested.

Seems am on DX11, as you would be then. another idea down the pan :(

still no crash tho! ;o
 
IceWind said:
it is true though. No manufacturer purposes makes low end chips of a new gen card. All the dies were made to be eaither 5850/70 or a 5970 gpu, therefore if it does not perform to the standards of ones of thoses gpus then it is technicly faulty.

The problem with re-distibuting these gpu as a mid/low end card is that there is no way of determing the actuall real life performance of them till they are out there on the market, by wich time its already too late and the consumer has had a bad experience.

Just because ATI/Nvidia limit the shaders and clock speed of the faulty die does not mean that they are going to produce a working gpu out of a faulty one.

Later down the line when the yields are up and the process more refined newer revisions of the cards come out.

It takes along time after a new gen of cards are out to be able to accuratly predict what dies will be capable of what, at the moment its a guessing game. The dies that work get thrown into the high end equipment the ones that dont get downclocked until they show some sort of life, tested very lightly, slapped togeather on a gpu thrown on a pcb and there you go a 5770 or a gts350 or wahtever the case my be.

Potentialy you could flash the gpu into anything you wanted if it was not for other drawbacks implemented on the pcb to prevent it.

Its the same with the newer TriCore and DuelCore Amd chips, they are all Quad Core Cpus, as represented by the fact that a lot of motherboards out there alow you to unlock the dorment cores, but there is a reason as to why they are dorment. They did not pass quility checks therefore are not sold as Quad Cores. Its just a way of them being able to shift, what would be in any other industry a failed product that would normaly be written off affecting the company profits.
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Errr some of AMDs new quad core chips are made without L3 cache and the 5770 core is a different core to the 5850/5870 (Juniper vs Cypress).

The companies can also use different quality of silicon crystal in production and go for certain chips too.
 
Nah, checked that a good while back. It just seems like the card craps out when it's really pushed (and yet it's usually okay with furmark?)
 
It's been nearly a day without a crash and av done a few hours of browsing in that time.... could have a culprit here!

If it turns out to be the HDMI port... would that surfice as a fault?
 
IceWind said:
it is true though. No manufacturer purposes makes low end chips of a new gen card. All the dies were made to be eaither 5850/70 or a 5970 gpu, therefore if it does not perform to the standards of ones of thoses gpus then it is technicly faulty.
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No. The Juniper GPUs used on 5750/5770 cards are a completely different design to the Cypress ones used on 5850/5870 cards. They are not 'failed' Cypress chips.

Just look at pictures of the chips, Juniper has a much smaller die.
 
I've found them to be such brilliant cards i've bought 2. Firstly I got an Asus 5770, then that's gone in the mrs' machine and i've bought a Sapphire 5770 Vapor-X. Both were through HDMI on the plasma, and since using the 9.12 driver (not hotfix) both have been perfect without any crashing. The 2nd machine is even running on an ancient MSI K9N-Neo v3 board with PCIE 1.1 slot, no problems whatsoever and smooth as silk. I really don't know what's causing all the problems as I initially had a few desktop driver crashes etc with the 9.11 catalysts. I really hope they get to the bottom of it because there are so many dissapointed buyers, not to mention the 5xxx series are fantastic cards if they worked flawlessly.
 
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