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GK110... where are you?
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A Moose fell on it,and its the thinnest GPU ever.
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yup
It has 87.5% more shader cores, and a 50% wider mem bus! Even with a cluster disabled and a crippled clockspeed, you'd need a *seriously* overclocked 680 to beat it!
1.4Ghz at least...I was worried for a while that GK110 would be Tesla / Quadro only. Now it seems likely we'll see it incarnated as the GTX780 sometime around March, albeit missing a lot of the compute-specific logic.
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Withheld cus an overclocked 660 can be rebranded to a 680 you mean
.Hopefully the 'real' high end cards will appear in 2013...
It's a free for all on customer milking until then
, at least AMD's prices are coming down though..
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It has 87.5% more shader cores, and a 50% wider mem bus! Even with a cluster disabled and a crippled clockspeed, you'd need a *seriously* overclocked 680 to beat it!
I was worried for a while that GK110 would be Tesla / Quadro only. Now it seems likely we'll see it incarnated as the GTX780 sometime around March, albeit missing a lot of the compute-specific logic.
The GK 110 has a huge transister count compared to a GK104 I would be interested to know how much heat the GK 110 produces and how it affects clocks and performance.
The other thing that springs to mind is if the GK 110 was run at GTX 680 speeds how many watts would it use 350 - 400 ?
The thing is with how successful the milking has been this generation do you expect them to go: "hurray have 50% extra performance for the same price as when last gen's cards settled?"
Nope. They'll be released minimum of £400 again with marginal increases over previous generation. Sceptical I know but I prefer this way as I can be pleasantly surprised as opposed to viciously disappointed.
You look like less of a **** on the forums this way as well (cheerier as opposed to brooding on numerous threads).
And on the plus side 680's will have a higher resale value for when I sell on to keep on the upgrade curve.
Nope. They'll be released minimum of £400 again with marginal increases over previous generation. Sceptical I know but I prefer this way as I can be pleasantly surprised as opposed to viciously disappointed.
You look like less of a **** on the forums this way as well (cheerier as opposed to brooding on numerous threads).
And on the plus side 680's will have a higher resale value for when I sell on to keep on the upgrade curve.
There are rumors that GK110 isn't coming for GeForce cards but a whole new chip instead ! GK114.
It's just rumors though... http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780/
It's just rumors though... http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780/
If/when we see GK110, I'm fairly confident that we'll see:
a) Significantly more than "marginal" increases in performance. In fact, I'd wager that it will be biggest performance jump we've ever seen within the same manufacturing process. 40% at the very least, and likely to be higher. Remember, the GK110 chip is twice the size of GK104! [7.1Bn transistors vs 3.54Bn for the GTX680]
b) Pricing will reach new heights for a single GPU card. Unless AMD also go for a monster GPU (which they've not been keen to do in the past) Nvidia will have no reason to price the chip competitively. The GK104 replacement (GK114?) is likely to go up against AMDs high-end sea islands chip, with GK110 in a "super high-end" price point of its own. I'm fully expecting prices to be well over £500.
GK110 will be no ordinary intra-process refresh. I suspect we're in for a bit of a raping as far as pricing goes, but the performance may just act as a lube.
That wccftech link is the only one that I've seen, and that doesn't read as being particularly concrete.
It's possible that GK110 will remain HPC-only, but if Nvidia can compete with AMD using the "sensible" GK114 chip (which is likely to be a refined and slightly beefed-up GK104 at a similar die size and price-point), then what do they have to lose in releasing a GK110 card at an even higher price-point?
They will already be manufacturing the chips for the HPC market, so it makes sense to leverage that into winning the annual GPU willy-waving competition.
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I was talking about the Moose animal,which is known for its plummeting:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/14/alaskan_mooseicide/
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I wonder what clockspeeds it will run at,to keep within an acceptable TDP and power consumption range for desktop. Moreover,as the GPU is configured for compute purposes too,I expect there will be penalties for the gaming performance which need to be factored in.
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That's the million dollar question really... I can't see it topping 1Ghz given its size, but somewhere above 750Mhz should be a pretty safe bet.
Given how long they've had to respin and refine the chip, and given that the 28nm process at TSMC has had a year to mature, my guess would be something in the region of 850Mhz. At this speed it would have around 60% more pixel-crunching power than the GTX680, and the 384-bit bus should pump memory bandwidth up by 50% (no real reason for memory speeds to drop).
Edit: Whatever the final clockspeed, you can bet it will be knocking on the door of 300W - perhaps even going a little over.
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