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Go for Haswell-E or opt for Skylake

sandeep

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Hi all

I know this question may have already been asked before but what are everyone's thoughts.

I'm looking to rebuild my whole desktop by selling the whole thing and building from scratch. I want something pretty powerful and have a pretty big budget ~£2k for the new build.

What are your guys thoughts? Buy a Haswell-E desktop now, Buy a Skylake desktop with DDR4 RAM or wait for Skylake-E at the end of next year?
 
If you can wait then wait, If Skylake-e is this year then it's almost time (I haven't looked at the release date info but presumably you mean Broadwell-e yeah). Will they release any new updated motherboards?

I know they will use the same ones just like they did with haswells refresh but will there be some released with extra's added? If so wait and if not you could buy it all now and replace your Haswell-e cpu with a Broadwell-e when it comes out.
You won't lose loads on it as you can sell the cpu at a decent price, I did it with my 4770k and 4790k and it cost me 20 or 30 quid which I was happy with considering the improvements (It was a poor overclocker that topped out at 4.2).

EDIT: Just noticed you said at the end of next year.

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Skylake has more power per core due to the new architecture and most games use <4 threads. The newer games that can utilise more I doubt will see much benefit from more than 8 threads.
 
matty114 said:
Why would you say skylake for gaming? the 5820k is still cheaper then the 6700k. I would get haswell-e over skylake.
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What kayomani said, but mainly because http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28564477&postcount=14

i5-6600K + mobo starts at £285
i7-5820K + mobo starts at £470
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An extra ~£185 for two cores is terrible value for gaming performance.

If the OP wants to blow the whole 2 grand though X99 today makes sense. No point waiting over a year for the next big thing.
 
Sorry guys would be easier to add my requirements in here. I mainly use visual studio a lot and a lot of dev for applications etc. Usage of database servers and virtual machines.
 
joeyjojo said:
What kayomani said, but mainly because http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=28564477&postcount=14


i5-6600K + mobo starts at £285
i7-5820K + mobo starts at £470

An extra ~£185 for two cores is terrible value for gaming performance.

If the OP wants to blow the whole 2 grand though X99 today makes sense. No point waiting over a year for the next big thing.
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Not a fair comparison, your comparing an i5 with 4 cores to an i7 with 6 core AND hyperthreading ;)
 
sandeep said:
Sorry guys would be easier to add my requirements in here. I mainly use visual studio a lot and a lot of dev for applications etc. Usage of database servers and virtual machines.
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Those tasks don't necessarily demand a high core count. If you frequently find yourself sitting around waiting for things to compile and your build system is threaded, and/or your database maxes out a quad core, and/or you need more VM threads, then the answer should be clear.

Mariusz said:
Not a fair comparison, your comparing an i5 with 4 cores to an i7 with 6 core AND hyperthreading ;)
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Obviously. The bottom line is, for gaming the difference is small, certainly not 200 quids worth (IMO).
 
joeyjojo said:
Those tasks don't necessarily demand a high core count. If you frequently find yourself sitting around waiting for things to compile and your build system is threaded, and/or your database maxes out a quad core, and/or you need more VM threads, then the answer should be clear.



Obviously. The bottom line is, for gaming the difference is small, certainly not 200 quids worth (IMO).
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I think I'll go with Haswell-E and DDR4, you reckon Skylake-E will be socket 2011?
 
Weird. I go back to get the link and it's gone. It was here this morning:

http://wccftech.com/topic/hardware/

Sorry I don't know what happened to it. There was a slide like from this older article:

http://wccftech.com/massive-intel-xeon-e5-xeon-e7-skylake-purley-biggest-advancement-nehalem/

I suppose either they got their information wrong (unsubstantiated / bad source). Or else had to take it down (leaked materials). Shame.

Sorry I can't really remember what it said. There was some talk about Purley having a feature for re-configurable PCI-e lanes though. I.e. being able to change whether the x16 is split into x8, x4 etc.

Only some of the new chips will be socket compatible. Others will require the Purley socket P (but we already knew that from the older article).
 
Ah sorry. Maybe I just got lost / assumed it was a new article from today. Like they referenced back or something.

^^ That older article seems to have the same details in it which I was reading about this morning.
 
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