Going to buy Ryzen for a photo/video, but 7700K benches smoke it sadly- help me choose what2buy

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As title - I found a very specific set of bench marks looking ONLY AT PHOTO VIDEO SOFTWARE - over at (I'm not sure I'm allowed to say it) a very well known hardware store over in the USA - they only sell in the USA so im not sure im allowed to say it.

Anyway they found the following info with LR/PS/PP - and its shocked me to be honest.

Lightroom CC2015.8

Ryzen 1700x = 100% (Export Only)
Ryzen 1700x = 100% (All other stuff (Import, Previews, HDR, Pano etc)

7700K = 90% (Export Only)
7700K = 130% (All other stuff (Import, Previews, HDR, Pano etc)

i7 6950k Six Core = 141%
i7 6950k Six Core = 117%

Premiere Pro CC 2017

Ryzen 1700x = 100% (Warp Stab)
Ryzen 1700x = 100% (Render Previews)
Ryzen 1700x = 100% (Export Average)

7700K = 140% (Warp Stab)
7700K = 94% (Render Previews)
7700K = 94% (Export Average)

i7 6950k Six Core = 149% (Warp Stab)
i7 6950k Six Core= 107% (Render Previews)
i7 6950k Six Core = 110% (Export Average)

Photoshop CC 2017

Ryzen 1700x = 100% (HDR)
Ryzen 1700x = 100% (Photo Merge)
Ryzen 1700x = 100% (General Actions)

7700K = 116% (HDR)
7700K = 112% (Photo Merge)
7700K = 123% (General Actions)

i7 6950k Six Core = 117% (HDR)
i7 6950k Six Core= 104% (Photo Merge)
i7 6950k Six Core = 103% (General Actions)

As you can see the 7700k for content creation seems to be extremely good, and in these applications clearly faster - Im shocked because iv waited years for affordable multi core - but apparently the software isnt there yet - im 'getting by' on my 4710HQ CPU - but its really really annoying me lately and I need something a lot snappier.

MY MAIN FOCUS is - how fast the system is while im working on it and with it - im less bothered about exports as I can do that overnight.

Also with the 7700k - it means I might be able to get a laptop ?!?!

Am I mad to think the 7700k maybe the way forward ? This software is the ONLY software I use - but im worried as my 4710HQ is also 'ONLY' an 8 thread cpu - yet, with the same threads 7700k is apparently smoking everything - help ?!?!! Any input really really welcome guys.
 
Yeah I would overclock any CPU I got, my current basket is looking like this:


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £956.25
(includes shipping: £12.30)


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I would probably delid the CPU also as im comfortable doing that - no idea how the cooler would handle the CPU though or what overclock I would get.

I am aiming as small as possible while still having a little bit of flexibility and some overclocking potential - obviously it wont be 'as good' as a full blown ATX tower, but also better than ITX
 
An Exception said:
I'm not sure how useful these benchmarks are right now (I've seen the ones you are referring to). I'd wait to see what performance is like when MS issues the SMT fix for Ryzen. Maybe lightroom should speed up a bit.
Personally I'd wait or buy a 7700k.
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Perhaps to a degree, but that doesnt explain Intels 6-8 CPU's that have perfect windows code also getting butt kicked by the 7700 (aside from export)

I knew Intels 7700k was a new CPU, but (and I'm an AMD fan/want AMD to win), its simply putting out big numbers for a 'desktop' CPU, especially in tests that matter - like when your using the software and are working on projects (again export matters less, I want a snappy experience when actually working).
 
ethan said:
To what extent will the 7700k smoke everything else over a period of two to three years is a question I would be asking myself. I think its a realistic possibility to assume the multi core approach will become mainstream.
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As mentioned above, Adobe are god god awful at recoding, I don't see them majorly changing their code base to take advantage of cores, hell, they had 10 years already and only just about make a quad core ok - hell photoshop STILL contains 26 year old code - its horrendous - sadly its industry standard, but my god it needs heavily reworking - but adobe wont do that, to much time and money.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Go with the best you can for the tasks you use - you have to realise every new release comes with mega hype,which will take time to calm down,and then people can have a better look at things.
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Yeah Im just looking at numbers tbh - however I'm still not sure windows is also playing completely correctly with the new Ryzen CPU, because on paper its skylake/broadwell level - and in some benchs its destroying, near 7700k IPC, but 90% others it doesnt - it just doesnt make sense, the only thing I can think of is its not optimized somehow or the softwares running it as 'intel cpu code' (yeah sure its 64x86) but with intel architecture in mind.

I am going to wait abit I think unless a great deal comes along - Ryzen is hinting at IPC well above x99 (when I say hinting its defo done some IPC stuff thats faster 'than it should be') and approaching 7700k

Its a tricky choice because, like most people I use a PC as my business absolute foundation - its my core device I use hours per day - so its got to be right for photo/video
 
ethan said:
I can hope.
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The thing is, they haven't touched some of the code for over 26 years, they would have to touch this ancient code to make it truly multi threaded (its why only SOME parts of adobes stuff is multi - realistically if you did it from scratch it would be all)...........so frankly there is no hope this will change unless all of a sudden they start loosing massive market share to others.
 
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