Does anyone else think this is an excellent idea by google? It would be awesome in my work place.
http://www.google.co.uk/enterprise/mini/
http://www.google.co.uk/enterprise/mini/
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Would be good where I work. The intranet search is awful.
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Anandtech did a review of the previous version last year, and they're now using one to power the search on their site. Sounds like a great product from what I've read.
A little on the expensive side in my opinion, but then I guess its aimed at the enterprise sector where £2-6k is small change
A little on the expensive side in my opinion, but then I guess its aimed at the enterprise sector where £2-6k is small change
the google mini is great, I installed and configured one for our website at work about 9 months ago. Its extreamly fast (think nearly every query under a second), fairly good at gettings results.
I haven't tested it against normal work documents yet, but we maybe getting a second so I'll try & post if I get the chance. If you want to index a file system get a version 2, the version 1 requires a "web interface" (aka you have to present the whole file system as a webpage).
[edit]Yes it is expensive at £2000 but compared to other similarly specified search engines (software & appliances) its peanuts.[/edit]
Anything you where particularly intrested in?
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I haven't tested it against normal work documents yet, but we maybe getting a second so I'll try & post if I get the chance. If you want to index a file system get a version 2, the version 1 requires a "web interface" (aka you have to present the whole file system as a webpage).
[edit]Yes it is expensive at £2000 but compared to other similarly specified search engines (software & appliances) its peanuts.[/edit]
Anything you where particularly intrested in?
akakjs
We got our google mini delivered to our hosting center and the t-shirt was no-where to be seen when I went to setup the server 
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Google has its own filesystem - the GFSrobc123 said:
I'd expect all their core software is totally bespoke, though for stuff like Adwords etc I know they don't use expensive commercial software (they tried it then reverted back to the other thing they were using, which I think was MySQL).
No idea what the mini uses but I'd expect it's something similar to the core search setup.
I had heard that is wasn't as good for intranets as it is for the internet due to the different way in which intranets are set out and linked between etc. Could be wrong though.
And Google have their own webserver and filesystem, and would be surprised if they hadn't developed their own RDB...
And Google have their own webserver and filesystem, and would be surprised if they hadn't developed their own RDB...
The only draw-back for intranets I can think of is you can't assign your own importance to documents (like sitemaps), which in a highly structured intranet might be of siginifiant benfit.growse said:
[edit]actually thinking about it I can't see a reason google would need an RDB for their primary search clusters. Its all about indexes and pre-processed page references, if it was relational there would be a large overhead that they would never use. Thats not to say that the googlebot/analysis systems wouldn't use RDBs.
Google have never been afraid of customizing everything to their needs. They even wrote their own programming language for highly parellel operations : http://labs.google.com/papers/sawzall-sciprog.pdf [/edit]
Google issued a research paper on the GFS, makes for intresting reading : http://labs.google.com/papers/gfs-sosp2003.pdf
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Anyone still using Google mini? I'm having a look at it on a test install at work and have a question that I can't answer.
A search on the client site e.g. site:www.domain.gov.uk returns different (better) results than the Google mini search. The Google mini crawler is set to the same URL, anything else I need to check?
A search on the client site e.g. site:www.domain.gov.uk returns different (better) results than the Google mini search. The Google mini crawler is set to the same URL, anything else I need to check?
We found there was a lot of improvement to be had by having the Mini index specially tailored pages. These would only have the important content on them, without any user-friendly navigation. I'd also have a look at the meta data indexing options that could be used to improve your search as well. It's not perfect, but it might help you.
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You'd be surprised how much data even a small company collects. I work for a recruitment software company; about 9 employees; and we have about 20GB of data in our database and I'm not counting archives or indexes.
