Got my first PCN!

Anyways, it was a dark night, hammering down with rain, and you cant see signs properly

Not much i could have done and it was way too late.
Apart from turn left by the look of it :p

Edit - the older signage circa 2019 was better though, i'll give you that

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Not really


the one was more entrapment,


I was on a road in to cardiff, and there is a left hand lane which near the last part of it, has a turning left, there was no signs on the approach stating that if you turn left, you would end up on another small road, which then leads and ends up in to another piece of road which is for taxis's only


as soon as you take the first left (which has no signage) you end up on the second road, again no signs stating the approaching road is for taxis only, by the time your on the second piece of road, you cannot turn round, you cannot do anything and you are forced to then drive on the 3rd road, where only at this point there is signs and a camera, by this time its too late, they have got you. You are forced on to the 3rd road with no option to back out , entrapment

That’s not a PCN
 
Holy moly I didn't even know it was a thing. I've just been basking in Claude Code's wonderfulness

I'm not a developer, I'm a Technical Marketing Engineer for a US tech firm. I've spent the past day and a half asking Claude CoWork to design and build an IDS for me from scratch. I haven't written a single line of code or designed any UI elements or anything like that, but I now have a virtual appliance up and running monitoring my network, using the Emerging Threats Open ruleset, abuse.ch's rules, the tor node database, etc as threat feeds. It has a full blown asset register of all discovered devices, an alerting system and pages for reporting on DNS, HTTP, TLS, TCP and UDP activity. In additional it's build an ML baselining system that is currently learning my network (will take a few days) and then will be able to look for anomalies.

In less than a day it built a fully functional IDS that the Zeek/Snort/Suricata developers took months/years to create.

The software industry is screwed.
 
I live in cardiff and drive around cardiff all the time, however, i never really drop people off by there ,

its just one of many many opportunities for them to grab money from you. Makes me want to avoid driving around the place here tbh

I've only ever really been around the Rhiwbina area - my dad's friends used to live there - tickled me as a kid due to the likeness to the drink.
 
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Yes it is

I think your getting confused, a PCN is not just a parking fine,


When you get done by a camera for anything like driving in a bus lane, driving in a taxi lane with a camera, it comes through from the council as a PCN letter and you get a PCN number


PCN stands for penalty charge notice


Yeah fair enough, I was thinking about parking charges.


Probably worth getting familiar with the road signs though in the city you live near ;-)


Don’t think it’s particularly difficult to read the signs in Cardiff, having lived outside it myself for a few years, when compared to other cities.


We need to take more accountability for just making a mistake, rather than playing a blame game of “oh it must be someone else’s fault”


It’s annoying, and sometimes costly, to get it wrong, but there are rules for a reason, and if you don’t like them, don’t drive.
 
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Yeah fair enough


Probably worth getting familiar with the road signs though in the city you live near ;-)


Don’t think it’s particularly difficult to read the signs in Cardiff, having lived outside it myself for a few years, when compared to other cities.


I am familier with the roads as i drive on them daily, however i dont go down that side road by the hilton hotel much


Anyways, i do cycle around cardiff sometimes in the summer, so next time i ride by a camera on the bike ill poke my centre finger up at them


The majority of the PCN notices i have had are from bus lane rubbish ,

Stupid rules ,
 
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I am familier with the roads as i drive on them daily, however i dont go down that side road by the hilton hotel much


Anyways, i do cycle around cardiff sometimes in the summer, so next time i ride by a camera on the bike ill poke my centre finger up at them


The majority of the PCN notices i have had are from bus lane rubbish ,

Stupid rules ,

I was familiar with roads in Bedford when I lived/worked there, but I still managed to drive down a taxi lane and get a PCN.


First instinct was that signage wasn’t sufficient, but ultimately it was fine and I just wasn’t paying enough attention to my surroundings while operating a vehicle.


Annoying but it taught me a lesson.
 
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.... and so it continues. Got a Notice of intention to prosecute in the mail this morning for driving off and not paying for fuel...
 
.... and so it continues. Got a Notice of intention to prosecute in the mail this morning for driving off and not paying for fuel...

Predictable, that's the main reason they clone plates.

A friend has their plates stolen off their car and had a bunch of those through the post. Thing is they will probably never get caught, because the police won't lift a finger unless someone on twitter got offended. So more do it because there are no consequences.
 
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The best thing you could do now to avoid any more PCNs and headache with police is to get your self a cheap private plate and put it on your car.

Once they realise your old plates are no longer insured/taxed/MOT'd etc they'll bin them.
Excuse my naivety here, but couldn't your private plate just get cloned too?
 
Excuse my naivety here, but couldn't your private plate just get cloned too?
Yes but in that scenario your risk is much more localised.

Ideally these plate cloners want a similar car so it's easier to get away with for a while, so it's easy to jump on Auto Trader (or similar), find a few silver Ford Focus plates from miles away, scribble them down then use them over the next several months (I'd guess the OP bought this car relatively recently, within the last 6 to 9 months sort of time frame).

With a private plate, the cloners need to see the actual car to pick it out as a potential silver Ford Focus they can clone - they can't just hop online and find it whilst searching for silver Ford Focuses.
 
Got another one this morning - a PCN from Transport for London for performing a prohibited U turn.

I now have the text of the representations I send them saved and just cut and paste into their webforms.
 
Predictable, that's the main reason they clone plates.

A friend has their plates stolen off their car and had a bunch of those through the post. Thing is they will probably never get caught, because the police won't lift a finger unless someone on twitter got offended. So more do it because there are no consequences.
Cliched "hurty words" nonsense aside, what would you like the police to do in this situation? Number plate cloning is a symptom of a system that allows numberplates to be produced by virtually any business with no auditing in place, and those same businesses then not performing the proper checks when people order said plates. There's an entire thread on this very forum of people buying plates from eBay and other retailers and not being asked for documents. There is work going on to try and remove some of these loopholes but without a full reform of the number plate issuing/manufacturing system, cloning is never going to go away because there'll always be businesses willing to flout the rules/law for profit.

You've also got the situation in this case of the victim living in one force area while the offences are happening in at least one other; there's not a lot Hants Police can do about a car in London on false plates so it's reliant on the other force(s) taking action which is not particularly easy with roads policing being a low priority for many forces due to budget constraints and other priorities.

Got another one this morning - a PCN from Transport for London for performing a prohibited U turn.

I now have the text of the representations I send them saved and just cut and paste into their webforms.
Out of curiousity, over what time period have these offences been occuring i.e. the first one to the most recent?
 
Out of curiousity, over what time period have these offences been occuring i.e. the first one to the most recent?

All this month, all in North London - Islington and Tottenham. Just had confirmation that the fuel drive off NIP has been cancelled.
 
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