Government Scrappage Scheme

[DampCat]

Can someone explain to me why this is a good idea? I'm not saying it isn't, i just don't understand the logic.

I nipped up to Temple Farm yesterday to get some parts for my GF's sisters Clio before her MOT retest, and while i was there i saw a mint (could do with a clean though) Volvo S40 (98-99 i think). Next to it, was a really tidy 1999 Golf GTI, and also a Puma with it's front bumper missing, but otherwise intact and clean. In fact, there were about 20 cars, all fine, lined up in one corner untouched.

These are pretty regular finds at scrap yards I'm sure you will agree, but the problem i had was that they were in fine condition, and aside from a bit of polish, they needed nothing (aside a front bumper on the puma) to make a nice car for someone.

However, they were all Cat B due to the Government Scrappage Scheme, and thus can never be put back on the road. Where does this make any sense?

Some of these, like the Golfs, will probably disappear pretty quick in bits and pieces but it just seems an absolute shame to rip them up like that. There are plenty of spares and parts available from genuine write-offs without dumping otherwise mint condition cars on top.

I'm sure the scheme does make sense, but I just don't get it. Can anyone explain?

 

[Participant]

 

[Howard]

Oh look what you've done, there's worms everywhere

 

[jamief]

Can someone explain to me why this is a good idea? I'm not saying it isn't, i just don't understand the logic.

I nipped up to Temple Farm yesterday to get some parts for my GF's sisters Clio before her MOT retest, and while i was there i saw a mint (could do with a clean though) Volvo S40 (98-99 i think). Next to it, was a really tidy 1999 Golf GTI, and also a Puma with it's front bumper missing, but otherwise intact and clean. In fact, there were about 20 cars, all fine, lined up in one corner untouched.

These are pretty regular finds at scrap yards I'm sure you will agree, but the problem i had was that they were in fine condition, and aside from a bit of polish, they needed nothing (aside a front bumper on the puma) to make a nice car for someone.

However, they were all Cat B due to the Government Scrappage Scheme, and thus can never be put back on the road. Where does this make any sense?

Some of these, like the Golfs, will probably disappear pretty quick in bits and pieces but it just seems an absolute shame to rip them up like that. There are plenty of spares and parts available from genuine write-offs without dumping otherwise mint condition cars on top.

I'm sure the scheme does make sense, but I just don't get it. Can anyone explain?

If the owners don't want them, or feel that the scrappage scheme will net them "more", then why not? This has been discussed to death on here btw.

 

[stockhausen]

Why don't you just do a search on this forum for "government scrappage" or visit a local motor dealership and ask them

 

[Janesy B]

Those cars are extremely dangerous and polluting and they MUST be destroyed. Apparently.

 

[stockhausen]

Those cars are extremely dangerous and polluting and they MUST be destroyed. Apparently.

You know this how

 

[antijoke]

You know this how

Gordon told us. You mean he is lying?

 

[stockhausen]

Gordon told us. You mean he is lying?

Did he?

When?

Where?

 

[[TW]Fox]

You know this how

You told us.

 

[Duke]

Its to keep a few brummies and sales people at dealers in their jobs.

 

[stockhausen]

You told us.

I think not my wee Foxy friend; I haven't seen the cars in question, don't even know where they are and am not qualified to comment on their particular safety features or levels of pollution

I will happily concede that many 10-year old cars are less safe and produce more pollution than many modern cars although I am quietly confident that you will be able to conjure up some example where this is not the case


However, as has been pointed out here and repeatedly elsewhere - the Government Vehicle Scrappage Scheme was introduced primarily to support the British Motor Trade.

 

[[TW]Fox]

 

[Bear]

You told us.

Thats what I was about to say.

 

[Janesy B]

You know this how

Because that is your EXACT stance on the matter. It is also the spin that GB puts on it too, why doesn't he be honest and say 'we need you to spend your money to get money moving around the economy so we're giving on an incentive'. Not all this co2 rubbish, anyone with half a brain would realise making a car creates a shed load of co2.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Save the environment by being consumerist and throwing away perfectly working equipment to buy brand new cheaply made tat from Korea guys.

It's the way forward!

Coming soon: House scrappage. Demolish your perfectly stable pre 1990's buildings and replace them with flatpack junk from Korea and the Government will give you 50p

 

[stockhausen]

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Save the environment by being consumerist and throwing away perfectly working equipment to buy brand new cheaply made tat from Korea guys.

As has been as has been pointed out here and repeatedly elsewhere to the people who are too thick to understand plain English:

The Government Vehicle Scrappage Scheme was introduced primarily to support the British Motor Trade.

Should we be encouraging consumer spending? - In my opinion, no. However that isn't the view of the motor trade or the Government which is happy to bail them out.

Is anyone forced to scrap their 10-year old car? - No.


Do for God's sake stop whining about the disappearance of old wrecks and join the 21st century.

 

[[TW]Fox]

join the 21st century.

And spend thousands of pounds on a horrible Korean car?

No thanks - I'll leave that to people like yourself.

Is anyone forced to scrap their 10-year old car? - No.

Yes - the vehicle recycling facilities and dealers who receive these cars are forced to scrap them.

The British motor trade should not have been bailed out in this way. They dug their own grave through massive oversupply. The policy offers no real support to most of the trade, just those selling bottom of the market dung which tends to attract your average scrappage punter.

Not sure our British friends at Jaguar are doing any better through Scrappage, are you?

 

[Janesy B]

join the 21st century.

and buy a cheaply made, underpowered piece of tat...

 

[GravyMonster]

As has been as has been pointed out here and repeatedly elsewhere to the people who are too thick to understand plain English:

The Government Vehicle Scrappage Scheme was introduced primarily to support the British Motor Trade.

Here's a rough list of cars (found with a 2 minute google) still manufactured in Britain.

Of those, maybe the Nissan Micra and Note and Toyota Auris will see any sales benefit because of the crappage scheme.

Seriously, get a clue.