GPU advice

[ray007]

bought 4070S last week and now there is a 7900xt selling for similar price. I have been quite happy with my 4070S so far coming from a 6700. Now the pros and cons: I never really liked the image quality of FSR and DLSS is just better. Looking at the benchmarks 7900xt is like 20fps better on average and around +-10fps slower when RT is on, but RT is of little interest to me and from what I have experienced its not worth the performance loss, plus RT/PT @1440p high/ultra I keep running out of VRAM in games like Rachet, Cyberpunk, Alan Wake2. Right now 7900xt seems like a good deal cause of higher raster performance but since i plan to keep my GPU for at least 2/3 years, upscaling techniques like FSR/DLSS might come into action and this is where nvidia shines but AMD might have caught up by then...So here I am wondering should I switch or not

 

[ray007]

What is the compromise you're making to stay under the VRAM limit? Personally, I would have thought that when you're running out of VRAM your card is near the limit of what it can achieve anyway.

Its only when I enable Ray/Path tracing i have VRAM issues, apart from that no issues what so ever. Also Ray/Path tracing seems like a no go for both cards anyways so I am only looking at pure Raster/upscaling performance/quality

 

[ray007]

What you've done there is sacrifice raw power to generate frames and substitute it for DLSS, and you running out of VRam will only get worse over the next 2 to 3 years.

Well, 7900xt wasnt an option for me at that point, and like i mentioned a few times, VRAM issues is only when playing with RT/PT otherwise it barely goes over 8GB @ 1440p hight/ultra.

update* since i made this post, 4070S has gone down even more in price and now there is a £50 price difference between the two. bear in mind I am only talking about Tri fan cards as I am not interested in anything else.

 

[ray007]

If you want the looks in something like Cyberpunk, you might be interested in this video where he attempts to simulate the visual style on major lower-end hardware:

"Photorealistic" Cyberpunk but I don’t have a 4090…

We've all seen those real-life Cyberpunk 2077 video showcases right? The ones that show off high resolution visuals and effects, often on an RTX 4090 powered...

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This looks interesting, hopefully there will be similar solution for GTA6 in a few years when most modern cards from today will start to struggle

 

[ray007]

Are you sure you're not confusing the 7900XT with the 7900GRE?

If you've spent 7900XT money on a 4070S you've massively overspent, possibly on a "premium" card that offers little to nothing over cheaper variants. You can get a 4070TI Super for around what you'd pay for a 7900XT.

there have been deals on both cards with massive discounts. also since i made this post, 4070S has gone down even more in price and now there is a £50 price difference between the two. If i end up getting the difference refunded, i will happily keep the 4070S.

 

[ray007]

You can post prices, just not where they're from.

4070S £580 tri fan - 7900xt 630 tri fan. i can get 4070S for around 535 but they are only 2 fan designs.

 

[ray007]

Otherwise, £630 for the XFX 7900XT isn't a bad deal assuming you can return your 4070S and put up with FSR. Personally speaking, DLSS is a big part of what pushed me into going Nvidia over a 7800XT/7900GRE.

I am looking at it that way: GTA6 on 4070S 60fps and with DLSS maybe 75 - 7900xt 80fps and with FSR 100+ but mediocre image quality. Also you are right about DLSS part, after experiencing it first hand I just can imagine myself using FSR again, unless it improves dramatically in the future.

 

[ray007]

thanks for the help all, they retailer has agreed to give me the difference back so I am sticking with 4070S.