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GPU suggestions for upgrade from 7850

miceormen

miceormen

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Evening All,

Finally got PUBG after getting a bit sick reading my 7850 would melt if I tried to run it.

In reality it runs fine at 1080p in very low everything, giving a playable 45fps average.

But I want more pixels.....and detail.

I have a 3570k, 16gb ddr3, neither I want to give up since a reasonable mobo/cpu/ram upgrade (1700x) is £600 I don't have right now.

Should I go for an RX 580 8gb, 1060 6gb or hold off until the GTX 11XXs come out and see if that drops the price on the above? 1060 seems like a relatively old card compared to the RX 580 now - or is it holding price because its of equal quality still?

Edit: Should say I have an AX760 with an 8 pin PCI-E lead already so no PSU issues for the RX afaik, and an Enthoo pro case so card length shouldn't be a problem.

Cheers
 
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Rx 580 and 1060 are cards that are direct comparisons as performing very similiar to each other, rx 580 has more ram but less power effecient, 1060 less ram but runs cooler and power effecient.

Won't be much between them, if you have a free sync monitor opt for the rx580.

If you can wait at this point I would see what 11 series brings from nvidia, amd will only compete at mid level still away.

I just wouldn't hope on prices being lower on new graphics cards
 
I’m in a very similar situation, just bought PUBG which my 7850 does run on low settings but it’s not pretty. Changing my i3 3220 for an i5 3570k like your setup, but I’m on 1440p.

With the GPU mining inflating graphics card prices and the series 11 Nvidia cards expecting to be released in Q3 this year, I’m not finding the decision easy. I quite like buying new kit but but the series 10 cards don’t seem like good value at the moment, the prices seem to be slowly coming down.

I’m quite tempted to buy a second hand 570 or something similar, which should allow playable frame rates until the series 11 cards arrive then reassess. Selling an older card should lose less value.
 
If opting now I look at 1070 minimum from nvidia, the prices won't change much when newer ones are out, the cards your coming from what ever you opt for you will see a nice boost either way
 
Mark1989 said:
if you have a free sync monitor opt for the rx580.

If you can wait at this point I would see what 11 series brings from nvidia, amd will only compete at mid level still away.
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No FS monitor. Running an LG 21:9 (the 25" UM58) and an old Sammy VA panel. Waiting does seem like the mature choice... plus I could buy something silly and then flog it when prices inevitably go up and buy a discounted 1060/RX580 (yeah I know that's bad but the market is already screwed).

matt1 said:
I’m in a very similar situation, just bought PUBG which my 7850 does run on low settings but it’s not pretty. Changing my i3 3220 for an i5 3570k like your setup, but I’m on 1440p.

With the GPU mining inflating graphics card prices and the series 11 Nvidia cards expecting to be released in Q3 this year, I’m not finding the decision easy. I quite like buying new kit but but the series 10 cards don’t seem like good value at the moment, the prices seem to be slowly coming down.

I’m quite tempted to buy a second hand 570 or something similar, which should allow playable frame rates until the series 11 cards arrive then reassess. Selling an older card should lose less value.
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I didn't realise the 3570k was still a desirable upgrade. I suppose its age/stage. I started on the AMD 3500 (first 64 bit Athlons) about 15 years ago, then went cheapo 775, then E8400. I'm not sure the 570 is going to be that big a step up from the 7850.. I'm already getting 45 FPS and what I've read the 570 you're only able to change it to medium settings.. but still in 1080 rather than my native res which is 2560x1080. Will look into that though, thanks.

Mark1989 said:
If opting now I look at 1070 minimum from nvidia, the prices won't change much when newer ones are out, the cards your coming from what ever you opt for you will see a nice boost either way
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1070 is a hundred quid more (worth it?) than the 100 quid more than I'd already intended to spend. 7850 cost me £160 5 years ago.. which amounts to a whole £25 inflation. Miners have already made my budget ridiculous. Not sure I can stretch to £400 on a GPU.

Further.. won't the 1070 bottleneck like hell with 'only' a 3570k to fuel it?
 
Nothing wrong with a 580 if that's what you have the moniez for mate. It's a fine card, for pubg and other games will work fine. Is it a smart buy then no it will not last as long has your 7850 has.
Like others have said the 1070 is the buy right now but you are right in saying that they still seem like top for for an card that has been out a while.
Get the 580, sell the 7850 wait a year then sell the 580 and pick up a better card when the mining thing is done and dusted
 
evohicks said:
This...
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-044-pl.html
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That's very nice but a; it'll probably be bottlenecked by my i5 and b; its £420 quid. I tip my hat to people that spend £300+ on GPUs, truly I do.. but my monitor is 60hz and the vast majority of the time I don't play anything more complicated than CS:GO (having tinkered with it since 1.5 and those glorious days before Steam) and lately, Rocketleague (there might have been a year or so in there where GTA V took more of my life than my gf but we don't talk about that).

PUBG is a fad worthy of a £300 component if its a good enough upgrade to enjoy it without stutters on or around 60fps.

rs155 said:
Nothing wrong with a 580 if that's what you have the moniez for mate. It's a fine card, for pubg and other games will work fine. Is it a smart buy then no it will not last as long has your 7850 has.
Like others have said the 1070 is the buy right now but you are right in saying that they still seem like top for for an card that has been out a while.
Get the 580, sell the 7850 wait a year then sell the 580 and pick up a better card when the mining thing is done and dusted
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Then that's what I'll probably do.. unless there's a GTX 1060 bargain worth having. Anyone any thoughts on this basically stock 1060 card? Its on another site for ~£240. Thought I might ring our betters and see if they'd price match it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-32s-ms.html
 
PUG is a very poorly optimised game and I'd strongly suggest you upgrade the CPU to an i7 for very little money.
 
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MrRobot said:
PUG is a very poorly optimised game and I'd strongly suggest you upgrade the CPU to an i7 for very little money
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I thought it was poorly optimised for the alpha, and its been ok since 1.0?

What are you basing your advice I should spend £100 on a 3770k on exactly? Its got an extra 2mb L3 cache and hyperthreading. That's it, for £100. Not sure even CPU intensive games (like BF1 which doesn't interest me) are going to see a dramatic difference between the two.
 
Get the best GPU you can afford, forget the term ‘bottleneck’ it’s game engine dependent, PUBG looks and runs like crap no matter what settings or resolution.
 
miceormen said:
I thought it was poorly optimised for the alpha, and its been ok since 1.0?

What are you basing your advice I should spend £100 on a 3770k on exactly? Its got an extra 2mb L3 cache and hyperthreading. That's it, for £100. Not sure even CPU intensive games (like BF1 which doesn't interest me) are going to see a dramatic difference between the two.
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IMO I would say you should try overclocking your CPU first if you are still running it at stock clock (assuming you got a reasonable decent enough 3rd party cooler).

After that, then you can think think about what way to go next.

XBox X supposed to have around similar graphic power as graphic card of 580 and 1060 6GB, but for PUBG it run like a tard comparing to people playing on gaming PC with an overclocked Intel i5/i7 CPU with a 580/1060, so that's probably some strong indication on heavy CPU bottleneck due to the inefficiency of the game engine, together with the burden of large amount of rendering and physics calculation that are carried out with that many players at the same time on the same map.
 
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