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GPU Upgrade Advice

Smithy18

Smithy18

Smithy18

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Hi,

I currently have a budget of £400-£500 to upgrade my GPU. Currently I am running an entry level MSI GTX 1050ti Gaming X 4G. My PC specs are the following

MSI B450M PRO-VDH
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 OC 4.1GHz @ 1.35v - Liquid Cooled
G.Skill 16GB DDR4 3000
MSI GTX 1050Ti Gaming X 4g
2TB Seagate Barracuda
750W Artic Blue Power Supply

My biggest problem here is i'm limited on space in my tower, the GPU would need to be less than 260mm long. I've been looking at the GTX 1080ti and AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT. I've very quickly found out there is no chance of getting either of these cards to fit as they are both around 300mm long.

After a bit more looking around I've come across a Sapphire Radeon Rx 5700 XT 8GB which measures in at 254x135x46.5mm, its the version with 2 fans and a core clock speed of 1670Mhz & 1925Mhz Boost, slightly lower than some of the larger RX5700s. I'm fairly confident this card would still be a nice upgrade from my 1050ti, i'm just looking for some advise to get the best bang for my buck.

Suggestions welcome

Thanks

Carl
 
Anything 5500 XT and up, would be a decent upgrade, so I definitely wouldn't worry about a few Mhz if it's the only one that fits.

You can get some pretty compact 1660s too, but they're obviously slower than a 5700 XT.
 
You in a rush?
Given prices in general are higher due to The Rona at the mo and AMD/NVidia are planning on landing new cards before the end of the year...
 
Hi and welcome to the forums. :)

750W Artic Blue Power Supply
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Oh dear!! I am very sorry for this but I am going to be blunt and straight to the point and I am very surprised that nobody else has picked up on it. That psu is garbage. A "so called" 750w psu that can be purchased for less than £30 and only has a 1 year warranty is going to be absolute rubbish and if you try to power a 1080ti or 5700XT from it then it will either not boot the pc at all or blow up. That psu will have the cheapest nastiest internal components they could possible find and there is no way in hell that thing will be able to deliver anywhere near 750w, in fact I would be very surprised if it could deliver half of that. It doesn't even have the basic 80+ rating and it's probably got some safety features missing as well. Another big red warning sign is that any decent 750w psu will have at least a pair of pci-e leads each with a pair of 6+2 pin connectors giving a total of at least 4 6+2 pin connectors for gpu's. That heap of junk only has a single 6+2 pin and a single 6 pin pci-e connectors. There is nothing at all about that psu that says quality and the abysmal 1 year warranty confirms this. The best place for that psu is in the bin. Sorry but I see no point in beating around the bush when it comes to something as important as the psu.

The psu is argueably the single most important component in a pc and is not something to save money on. Ideally you should aim for a good quality Gold rated psu either with fixed or modular cables depending on your preference. For a good quality 750w psu you should be paying somewhere in the region of £80 for a Gold rated 750w psu with fixed cables and around £100 for a fully modular 750w gold rated unit. Typically those psu's will have a warranty in the 5-10 year range. Most people will not require a 750w psu though and one of that size is only really needed for power hungry builds. For most people a 550w psu is more than enough power unless they have a gpu such as a 1080ti or Vega.
 
pastymuncher said:
Hi and welcome to the forums. :)



Oh dear!! I am very sorry for this but I am going to be blunt and straight to the point and I am very surprised that nobody else has picked up on it. That psu is garbage. A "so called" 750w psu that can be purchased for less than £30 and only has a 1 year warranty is going to be absolute rubbish and if you try to power a 1080ti or 5700XT from it then it will either not boot the pc at all or blow up. That psu will have the cheapest nastiest internal components they could possible find and there is no way in hell that thing will be able to deliver anywhere near 750w, in fact I would be very surprised if it could deliver half of that. It doesn't even have the basic 80+ rating and it's probably got some safety features missing as well. Another big red warning sign is that any decent 750w psu will have at least a pair of pci-e leads each with a pair of 6+2 pin connectors giving a total of at least 4 6+2 pin connectors for gpu's. That heap of junk only has a single 6+2 pin and a single 6 pin pci-e connectors. There is nothing at all about that psu that says quality and the abysmal 1 year warranty confirms this. The best place for that psu is in the bin. Sorry but I see no point in beating around the bush when it comes to something as important as the psu.

The psu is argueably the single most important component in a pc and is not something to save money on. Ideally you should aim for a good quality Gold rated psu either with fixed or modular cables depending on your preference. For a good quality 750w psu you should be paying somewhere in the region of £80 for a Gold rated 750w psu with fixed cables and around £100 for a fully modular 750w gold rated unit. Typically those psu's will have a warranty in the 5-10 year range. Most people will not require a 750w psu though and one of that size is only really needed for power hungry builds. For most people a 550w psu is more than enough power unless they have a gpu such as a 1080ti or Vega.
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I laughed when I saw your comment, to be honest I was also waiting for someone to mention the fact that the PSU is dog ****. I didn't build the PC it was purchased from a friend of mine. I done a quick search on the Artic Blue PSU to see if it had the correct pin connectors, that's when I noticed everyone blasting the PSU. Based on what you've said ill go ahead and order a replacement PSU, I've ordered the Sapphire RX5700 XT 8GB GPU, I noticed it required a 650w PSU so I will more than likely go with a good quality 650w Unit, do you have any particular units in mind that you would recommend?

koooowweeee said:
Why not get a bigger case? If you don't you'll always be stuck with smaller cards

Or can you not do a bit of modding ?
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To be honest with the Sapphire RX5700 installed the pc will do everything that i require of it, i'd rather upgrade everything and do a proper PC build when the time is right.
 
It's worth pointing out that brand doesn't always mean much, both Corsair and Seasonic have some pretty crap PSU's on the market. Corsair doesn't make it's own anyway, it has a number of OEM's that vary depending on the range. Seasonic does make most of it's own, but there's the odd stinker it out sources (for some reason) such as the Seasonic S12III.

Check back in here with whichever model you're looking at and we can verify whether or not it's worth buying.

Alternatively, while not perfect I find the PSU Tier List over at LTT to be a useful rule of thumb resource for the unsure:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

The Leadex III suggested above is a solid choice though, bit on the expensive side for what it is but it's a nightmare finding stock at the moment.
 
Thank you for the recommendations, I see there are so many PSU units out of stock at the moment. Based on the stock numbers ill go ahead and order the Leadex III ARGB 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black. Can you guys just confirm that this PSU will have the correct pin plugs to suit the Sapphire Rx5700 XT GPU that I have purchased?
 
Smithy18 said:
Thank you for the recommendations, I see there are so many PSU units out of stock at the moment. Based on the stock numbers ill go ahead and order the Leadex III ARGB 650W 80 PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply - Black. Can you guys just confirm that this PSU will have the correct pin plugs to suit the Sapphire Rx5700 XT GPU that I have purchased?
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It will, and Superflower are great PSU’s.
 
Thank you, I've placed an order with Overclockers. Im assuming this is a straightforward install and there is nothing super important that I should bare in mind ?
 
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