Graphic's card advice

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 19:46

Hi all,

I've just changed my computer, its no where near the "latest equipment" but it is faster than what I had and it's mainly for my children to play modern'ish game's on,

I wanted to install a newer graphic's card and tried to via ebay.

so I brought an EVGA Nvidia Gefore GTX 970, after it arrived I installed it connected up the extra power connectors and fired her up.

loading to windows and installing the driver's where no problem either, but every time I tried to play a game or even run furmark it would shut my whole computer off (as if I'd pulled the power cable out) then it would restart on itself and load back into windows without any error messages.

Games tried were:
Feed and grow fish
ARK combat evolved
and furmark GPU stress test

I had to debate with the seller to return the item and in the end paypal stepped in as I believed the card was defective?

I tried re seating the card, enabling and disabling power loading in the bios along with many other options but nothing would stop it, at a last resort I took it out and enabled my on board graphic's and repeated the same games and they worked but very laggy same with furmark.

now I've been refunded the money I wanted to tried a new card from OC but I'm just concerned it may happen again? back in my day (win 95/98) you could just install a card and drivers and away you go lol

I have roughly £150 to play with and would like to stay with Nvidia.

My current setup (don't laugh)

Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2H Motherboard
Intel Core i3-4160 Processor @ 3.6GHz
8GB RAM
700w PSU
Windows 10 pro x64

I was interested in this card but unsure?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/inno...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-06l-in.html

Thank you.

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 20:05

melmac said:
The 1050ti is a lot worse than the 970. If you could push your budget to £180, you could get a 1060 which would be a much better buy then the 1050ti.

hi thanks for the quick responce. would that work ok in my current setup?

the seller kept suggesting it was my setup as to why it kept cutting out.

thanks

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 20:32

hi.

that card was tested with 2 psu's but if that was the case again, what cheapish psu would you guys recommend? based on that card suggested?

I'll get the details of current psu for you in a second

thanks

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 20:43

arby1 said:
I had the exact same thing 2 weeks ago with a 980ti.
If i slowly increased the load on it then it would downclock itself sufficiently to keep itself stable (but with massively reduced speed), but if I just started a game or stress test then it'd fail in a few seconds.

Sent it back under warranty. Instantly deemed as faulty and given refund.

While it could be a power issue, it's impossible to diagnose from the info you have.

well this was second hand lol so could have been the case.

for info wise psu states "cit model 750ub"

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 20:46

Shiari said:
I'd never recommend a cheap power supply. They may be lacking protection circuitry that more expensive power supplies are much more likely to have; they may be using cheaper components such as Chinese rather than Japanese capacitors aor they are poorly constructed, and as such they are more likely to fail or may not be able to provide good stable power. If a power supply would fail there's the chance of it sending a surge to the rest of the system, causing expensive damage ... so cheaping out on it, you don't really want to do that.

So I can't in good conscience recommend something cheap. You need that budget for that new GPU though, so unless you're budgeting extra there's really no way to get a different PSU that's at least decent.

yes I do understand where your coming from.

I'll rephase it

is there a cheap psu that ocuk do that would be sufficient enough?

thanks

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 21:14

ok thank you I might just try the 1060. but if it still fails what would you guys recommend on a budget wise.

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 21:23

the only power wise things in my computer are the motherboard, cpu fan, 2x sata harddrives 1x sata dvd writer, 1x memory card reader and the external case fan.

thanks

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 21:46

melmac said:
What's your budget? Just buy a 500w one that's on this site. You will get a decent one for £50

I wil definitely take the advice onboard what are your thoughts on this one?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-core-series-700w-80-plus-certified-power-supply-ca-02q-kk.html

thanks

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 21:56

im just thinking get both psu and gpu at the same time then if it still happens after im completely stumped.

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 22:03

melmac said:
I would go for this one

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-kl-600-600w-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-ca-012-kk.html

thank you

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 22:07

southernorth said:
Don't get that PSU - it's another low quality cheap unit with only a 2 year warranty. Don't ever skimp on the PSU, as it can take out your entire PC.

Get one of these instead:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Super Flower Platinum King 550W 80 Plus Platinum Power Supply - Black= £74.99

1 x Bitfenix Formula Series 550W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply= £66.95

Total: £153.04 (includes shipping: £11.10)

ok thank you

Dave Draycott · 14 Nov 2017 at 22:16

nashathedog said:
Never go with a cheap non brand PSU, I did once.

I think at the moment crimbo wise and budget I may be better getting a lower priced gpu and spending more on the psu the kids at most wanted to play ARK so maybe something that is capable of that? would any of the 2gb nvida cards be enought?

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 05:53

Yes I tried 2 with the same fault happening, and did a fresh install of windows and drivers to confirm it. I'm stuck what to try lol

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 11:21

seriously wow will get it replaced this weekend thanks

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 15:50

I think the best bet from the advice given is getting both, however money being tight at the moment due to christmas and other bills is there a cheaper nvidia card than the 4gb one that would run ark and feed and grow fish ok so I could spend more on the psu?

really appreciate the feedback guys.

cheers

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 16:21

Would this be a good choice? I can stretch to it.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-kl-600-600w-80-plus-bronze-power-supply-ca-012-kk.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/evga...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-30q-ea.html

Thanks

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 17:09

melmac said:
I wouldn't get the 1050ti. I would get a 1060 and get a PSU later if needed. That's just me though.

Black Friday is coming up, so you might get a good deal on a GPU or PSU near the end of the month. It might be worth waiting a couple of weeks to see.

True hopefully it was just the GPU then.

would you say this one?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-03o-pl.html

Dave Draycott · 15 Nov 2017 at 17:26

melmac said:
I got the same model 1070 and it's fine. Palit are pretty good actually.

But, did you read what I said about black Friday? If you aren't in a rush to buy maybe you should wait a couple of weeks to decide?

Yes I did thanks, I can wait I'm just concerned about the PSU a little now :S

Thanks

Dave Draycott · 19 Nov 2017 at 00:02

Hi all. many thanks for all the advice and info, I brought both a new psu and gpu today and all is running smoothly and stable again

thanks again my sons very happy he can play his games now lol