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green or red being better in laptops, need one to run SC13 on medium

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from a cpu thread im thinking of ditching my intel pc for a nice laptop as i use my slow laptop more than pc and as i cant afford 300 quid plus gaming ones, im looking again at the more consumer ones that i could still game on a bit, but wondered if nvidia still better like the desktop segment?

i have been in the mood to play sim city 2013 again, try out city skylines and anno 2205, maybe get NMS oh and the forrest, so ideally something that can run them all around medium settings, thats all i want to play aside from oldies.
 
Depends price perf etc.
I have a predator 15 with 1060 6gb and disliking it because the monitor is only 60hz and everything has to run with vsync on which greatly affects input lag.
And imho gsync doesn't work actually, because the monitor refresh rate is well bellow the GPU grunt power at 1080p.​

But if shooters aren't you thing aint matter that, buy what has the better perf/cost and turn on vsync.

Personally i will replace it as soon as Vega laptops are out​
 
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thanks for reply.

i am a big shooters gamer or games like fallout type etc, but aside from fallout, i play more of those games and gta for example amongst car games on xbox one, so really for pc now, im more interested in the strategy type games, i might try some indie like games, but my gaming is not of a high demand, so as gaming laptops even from £350 for a ROG as an example are out my reach and wouldnt use the potential fully anyways, i am looking more to i5/i7 with dedicated 700-800 series nvidia(or a mid-high 600) or whatever the AMD equivalents would be or an APU with graphics performance similar to 600/700m from nvidia, something that could run those games ive mentioned on atleast medium, i wont be playing games all the time, but i want it to have some sort of gaming potential.

as im looking more to older models, i think £200 for a consumer based is a good maximum, i had seen before i7 4c/8 with low-mid range 600m graphic cards for around £150, but for laptop wise i wont be fussed if its green team or red, not amd based discrete are common it seems outside of an APU.
 
for now nvidia is still better, but AMD announced Vega Mobile few days ago, it's basicaly the part they sell to intel for their NUC, vega+hbm2 they will probably do the same and intergrate into into a single pcb with ryzen.
performance would be equivalent to a GTX 1060.
 
just a quick update:

ive changed my mind on things now, it would be silly to get rid of my intel pc, certainly for laptop types i cant afford, so im going to get rid of my AM1 system to fund the laptop instead

ive also changed my mind on the games, i will play the oldies still, but i mainly play the types like School Tycoon as i like those building sort of games, but for the more demanding like games, i am just going to go with sim city 2013, i would happily waste hours on that game on a laptop than anno and others and as it isnt as demanding as the other 2, i shouldnt need to aim too high on laptops.


according to 'can i run it' feature on game-debate, my i3 + 610 goes above the minimum and has a suggested 'medium' setting with the 610 being the weaker link, ive just checked a 2nd gen i3 2370m with HD3000 and thats the same story, seems to meet medium settings with the intel graphics being the weaker link, seen a nice pavilion G6 with that i3, but i question purposely buying a dx10 laptop.
 
AlamoX said:
for now nvidia is still better, but AMD announced Vega Mobile few days ago, it's basicaly the part they sell to intel for their NUC, vega+hbm2 they will probably do the same and intergrate into into a single pcb with ryzen.
performance would be equivalent to a GTX 1060.
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Intel NUC used Vega M GH chips that has equivalent to a GTX 1060 but both HP and Dell used slower Vega M GL chips that has equivalent between GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti.

Had you seen HP Spectre x360 and Dell XPS 15 9575 prices?

£1699-£1899 for HP Spectre x360 and £1699-£2499 for Dell XPS 15 9575 laptops with Vega M GL. :eek:

What a joke, hell you can get laptops with GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti for less than a grand, GTX 1060 for a grand or GTX 1070 for less than £1699 or GTX 1080 for £2000.
 
GTX1060 is amazing in a laptop, never thought I'd be able to max all games on a laptop! Skylines runs better than my desktop for some reason, that has a GTX1080 but CPU maybe limiting it? But yea, all max, graphics mods, GTA V, Assasins Creed Origins, all ultra, Kingdom Come Deliverance even on very high!
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
Intel NUC used Vega M GH chips that has equivalent to a GTX 1060 but both HP and Dell used slower Vega M GL chips that has equivalent between GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti.

Had you seen HP Spectre x360 and Dell XPS 15 9575 prices?

£1699-£1899 for HP Spectre x360 and £1699-£2499 for Dell XPS 15 9575 laptops with Vega M GL. :eek:

What a joke, hell you can get laptops with GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti for less than a grand, GTX 1060 for a grand or GTX 1070 for less than £1699 or GTX 1080 for £2000.
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While on my holidays atm, here in Greece found the Asus laptop with RX580 & Ryzen 1700X laptop goes for less than £1000 (€1200 actually) and that with 23% vat which I could claim back.
To put in perspective relative pricing....
And RX580 is better than the 1060 6GB at the standard 1080p monitors the laptops are coming with, so no brainer.

And yes got one today I saw the price at the shop, time to sell the Predator :)
 
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Less than £1000 for ASUS ROG laptop with Ryzen 1700X and RX 580 GPU? Could not find it in UK so maybe in Greece.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,311.05 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Don't know if you can claim back 23% Greece VAT, probably not as HMRC likely will have a word with you soon and slapping import duty on it.

You will be lucky if you get away from HMRC by not pay import duty.

Funny thing that RX 580 Mobile is faster than Vega M GL.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
Intel NUC used Vega M GH chips that has equivalent to a GTX 1060 but both HP and Dell used slower Vega M GL chips that has equivalent between GTX 1050 and 1050 Ti.

Had you seen HP Spectre x360 and Dell XPS 15 9575 prices?

£1699-£1899 for HP Spectre x360 and £1699-£2499 for Dell XPS 15 9575 laptops with Vega M GL. :eek:

What a joke, hell you can get laptops with GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti for less than a grand, GTX 1060 for a grand or GTX 1070 for less than £1699 or GTX 1080 for £2000.
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because you are paying for the intel taxe, if you facture in the price of the cpu would be basicaly halfed, and the gpu part a good 20-30% cheaper, so imo probably good 300-500$ off what intel laptop cost.
this is the most interesting part of AMD portfolio for consumers, my guess they will try to put it at a reasonable price to incentivise OEMs, i don't think they can afford to make it a nich product.
remember that AMD gave up on discrete GPU for the time being, just so they can push semi custom, mobile parts and APUs.
 
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