Greenlizard0 PL/CS/FA Cup SF Football Thread ** spoilers ** [15th - 21st April 2022]

Bit surprised how much is being made of this Conor Gallagher thing, not playing against your parent club just seems totally logical to me, in fact I think in the league it was even not permitted by the regulations at one point.
 
HangTime said:
Bit surprised how much is being made of this Conor Gallagher thing, not playing against your parent club just seems totally logical to me, in fact I think in the league it was even not permitted by the regulations at one point.
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It makes sense for Chelsea to reject the request but it isnt fair is it. All players loaned out should be able to play against their parent clubs.
 
omnomnom said:
It makes sense for Chelsea to reject the request but it isnt fair is it. All players loaned out should be able to play against their parent clubs.
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Why? Surely they're then put in a really awkward position? There's a decent likelihood that their parent club is paying some of their wages, and often they're out on loan to impress that parent club. It's a massive conflict of interests.
 
I can see both sides. If a player made a mistake or misses goals against the parent club people would be crying foul play. Plus you are hardly likely to go in hard against your old team mates while on loan. Imagine a Liverpool defender loaned out injuring Salah for the rest of the season for example. Wouldn't do his career much good!


HangTime said:
in fact I think in the league it was even not permitted by the regulations at one point.
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Yes it was Barry couldn't play against City

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/new...oss-roberto-martinez-wants-loan-rules-changed

Anyway on a positive note, today see's City go from potential Treble winners to unlikely double winners! Unless City are playing it up on injuries!
 
I'm fairly sure that it's still not permitted in the League. Previously clubs had the option either allow loaned out players to play vs them or insert a clause in the deal preventing it, the latter being the case in almost all scenarios. The rule changed shortly after Lua Lua, on loan at Portsmouth from Newcastle, scored a last minute goal against Newcastle which pretty much cost them a CL spot. He ended up receiving loads of abuse for celebrating the goal and it basically ended his career at Newcastle and the rule was changed as a result.

As for it not being fair, maybe but the loan system as a whole isn't fair imo. Given the money in the PL I don't see a reason why PL clubs should have to loan players at all and I certainly don't think they should be allowed to loan players from within the same League. The way the transfer windows are structured and so many of the issues around project restart after covid first hit were to do with the competition and circumstances matches are played being the same for everybody and yet a side a team can field against two different teams can be field can be influenced by the loan system. Make things easier by either banning PL clubs from loaning any players or at least from other PL clubs.
 
BaZ87 said:
I'm fairly sure that it's still not permitted in the League. Previously clubs had the option either allow loaned out players to play vs them or insert a clause in the deal preventing it, the latter being the case in almost all scenarios. The rule changed shortly after Lua Lua, on loan at Portsmouth from Newcastle, scored a last minute goal against Newcastle which pretty much cost them a CL spot. He ended up receiving loads of abuse for celebrating the goal and it basically ended his career at Newcastle and the rule was changed as a result.

As for it not being fair, maybe but the loan system as a whole isn't fair imo. Given the money in the PL I don't see a reason why PL clubs should have to loan players at all and I certainly don't think they should be allowed to loan players from within the same League. The way the transfer windows are structured and so many of the issues around project restart after covid first hit were to do with the competition and circumstances matches are played being the same for everybody and yet a side a team can field against two different teams can be field can be influenced by the loan system. Make things easier by either banning PL clubs from loaning any players or at least from other PL clubs.
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Perhaps, although the counter argument to this is that Palace would not then have had Gallagher at all, weakening them for their other 36 games. You'd also just end up with more sale and buyback if you barred loans
 
manic111 said:
Perhaps, although the counter argument to this is that Palace would not then have had Gallagher at all, weakening them for their other 36 games. You'd also just end up with more sale and buyback if you barred loans
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I'm not sure the first point is really a counter argument. It's the whole point that Palace (or any side) should have the same squad for all their games. It's why the PL tried moving the summer transfer window to before the seasons kicked off and why the January window is where it is - you'd have seen clubs objecting to January signings being able to play in rearranged matches that were due to be played before the window opened for the same reason. The League's idea is that every side has the same squad (wherever possible) for the first half of the season, playing each side once, and then the same squad for the 2nd half of the season, again playing everybody once. And so what if Palace wouldn't have had Gallagher anyway? There's a world of players available for Palace to sign instead.

It just seems mad that the League does so much to make sure the competition is as even as possible but allows clubs to strengthen an opposition side for all their games vs their rivals and essentially weaken that side when they play themselves.
 
Spurs so lucky not to be down to 10 men. Kulusevski clearly swung an elbow at the Brighton LB - fortunately it barely made contact but it was clearly a violent act. I remember Paul Scholes getting sent off at Anfield for throwing a punch that missed Xabi Alonso, no idea what was different here.
 
BaZ87 said:
Spurs so lucky not to be down to 10 men. Kulusevski clearly swung an elbow at the Brighton LB - fortunately it barely made contact but it was clearly a violent act. I remember Paul Scholes getting sent off at Anfield for throwing a punch that missed Xabi Alonso, no idea what was different here.
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Yea I'm not quite sure how he got away with that, more by luck that it didn't make contact really.
 
Yep agreed. 100% if that had been given as red then Mwepo would also have now been given a second yellow (clearly if the match had unfolded the same). It really annoys me that refs almost feel the need to balance things up.

IE - Yellow just given for a 4th foul, yellow then shown to an opponents subs first foul that was in middle of pitch, low force…etc
 
Tombstone said:
What makes it more hilarious is that I saw a headline this morning talking about how Spurs have the most clinical front line in the league :D
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Sky sports were running it. They were using stats from the 19th of Feb only.

https://streamable.com/p9tv7s

This is the Kulusevski elbow for whoever hasnt see it. He was given a yellow so it was seen. Id love to know the refs thinking behind that card.
 
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