Grenfell speeder

[Tuppy_Glossop]

Just checked for myself and it can't be reused within three years for the same extreme hardship circumstances. Different acceptable circumstances can lead to a successful extreme hardship case within the three years... eg. caring for an elderly relative.

 

[VincentHanna]

so you're another in the crowd of a career being an excuse to allow anyone to drive how they like and break laws for no legitimate reason whilst being distracted and under stress. and you mention common sense, lol. okay.
"hardly fast". given the speed limit is 70 i would say it is.

Do you drive, yes or no?

 

[Jonny ///M]

The speed limit was set at a time when cars were pretty ****. Yes, the law says 70mph, that certainly doesn't mean that going above that is overly dangerous. Speed limits need a massive overhaul in general, cars are safer and stop a lot faster than they ever used too.

You are getting far too bent out of shape over this. Underlying issues with your hatred of speeders.

Acceptable speed and driving perceptions vary drastically between people. I was going out Sat, following a red astra, constantly tapping breaks on, doing 50mph in a 60, a pain to follow. We came around a bend and I overtook. I knew nothing was coming as I had a clear view of the road ahead before we even got to the bend do to us approaching down a hill. Pulled in in plenty of time, no issues, my wife didn't even say anything. Go to the meal and it turned out it was the other 2 couples we were going out with and one told me I was driving like a C Bomb... we had rather a little falling out over it because in my eyes (and everyone else's) it was fine, but to her i may as well have curled one off on the grave of her grandmother.

Love the last part!

I picked a mate up a few weeks back and he made a joke about having **** his pants in my back seat because I went through a roundabout at 30mph.

Having been in his car with him now I get why, he slows down and watches the tumbleweed come by at roundabouts that are clear. Maybe because I'm used to cycling I check it's clear and go on the way up to it.

I wouldn't say 116mph wasn't fast but it's not unusual and I see that regularly. Not for a prolonged period of time at least just a blast on my way home from work where there's a downhill section which is straight for long enough to check it's clear.

I've had plenty of small cars or women with kids in the back tailgating at 90+ down the same road, all the time as we must finish work at the same time.

I wouldn't change the speed limit as it stands because people still go slower than that, I sit at 65ish quite a lot as the engine sits happy at that. The people who sit at 80-90 as it is will probably just do the same speed and then you'll get people who will see it as ok to do 10-15 over the limit but aren't ready to drive at that speed. Braking is the thing that changes most when north of 100, certainly for me at least.

 

[Lopéz]

Has this person now got carte blanche to speed at will?

No. You do realise he has still been punished, right? They haven't just let him off.

 

[trigg_27]

With the technology available these days, we should have dynamic speed restrictions.

Empty motorway in the middle of the night: 100mph. Same motorway during rush hour: 60mph
Urban road going past a school at kicking out time: 10mph. Same road at 7pm: 30mph

 

[Tuppy_Glossop]

No. You do realise he has still been punished, right? They haven't just let him off.

Yes, I realise that. I was asking if anybody knew if he could keep reusing the same defence and keep his license, as you could probably see from my subsequent posts. You are probably right that 'carte blanche' implies without any punishment but please be assured that I only meant in respect of keeping his license

 

[ubersonic]

No idea what the road is like where he was speeding

The A55 Expressway (faster/better than a dual carriageway but not quite a motorway, I think the A1(M) may be a good comparison?) is the main road that goes across North Wales, it basically links the M53 and M56 on the English border to the port to Ireland at Holyhead. Historically speaking police enforcement of speed on it has always been a bit lax (speeds of all vehicles are usually the same as you would encounter on a motorway at the same time under the same weather) mostly due to the fact it went past Brunstrom's office and he didn't want the bad press that would come from properly policing it. 116MPH sounds high but if you factor in most vehicles in the fast lane do 80-90 unless there's traffic/rain it can be pretty normal to see triple figures on some stretches (especially ones where there is literally nowhere to put a speed trap).

 

[Fusion]

Somewhat unrelated, but I remember being on the A55 heading west some years back, coming down a decent gradient (looking now, think it was near Rhuallt), round a tightish curve for the speed of a road and being thrust into a queue of stationary traffic which had backed up, and couldn't be seen in advance due to the combination of the undulations and curves (plus foliage).

I managed to slow down as I doubt I'd have been doing more than 70 (I was in a Fiesta!), and always leave decent space in front. But it still surprised me a bit. Dare say a few people would have hit vehicles in that queue due to not anticipating it and just driving too quickly considering lack of visibility, especially with it being downhill. The weather conditions were dry and clear, but that wouldn't have prevented an accident.

There are clearer stretches of road than this on the A55 though, of course. But many A-roads do have these quirks that you don't need to find on motorways, such as tighter radius curves and steeper gradients. Some are littered with obstacles such as the A1 in parts, or the A38 between Lichfield and Burton. Footpaths crossing the road, direct access to properties and rural lanes, odd kinks, the works. Still get people blasting through.

 

[AHarvey]

There are clearer stretches of road than this on the A55 though, of course. But many A-roads do have these quirks that you don't need to find on motorways, such as tighter radius curves and steeper gradients. Some are littered with obstacles such as the A1 in parts, or the A38 between Lichfield and Burton. Footpaths crossing the road, direct access to properties and rural lanes, odd kinks, the works. Still get people blasting through.

The thing is, those people who blast through probably drive that road every day, they know where each bump, pothole and turning is, as well as where the speed vans sit. I won't drive fast on roads I don't know, my driving above is on a road I've driven on average one a day for the last 10 years. Yes, you still get the idiots who tear around on any road, and that's where you get your accidents.