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GTX 295 - HUGE input lag in crysis and tf2 HEEEELP!!

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I have watercooled my new GTX 295 so warranty is void and no chance of taking it back. its overclocked to 675/1200.

I have now tried crysis warhead demo, and tf2 and both behave identically. i move the mouse around and about half a second later, the character on the screen moves. its rendered the games COMPLETELY unplayable. I was using a 8800GTX before and never ever had anything like this, movement was instant.

it isnt a framereate issue, tf2 is running rock solid 59fps and never budges an inch. it is driving me absolutely mad after only 5 mins.

i have now suddenly seen loads of posts about micro stuttering (no idea what it is yet) and lag using sli. surely to god a £350 graphics card is not rendered completely useless when playing games because the input lag is so ridiculous you cant play it properly?

driver version i have according to device manager (windows 7 RC) is 8.15.11.8618 dated 10th june 2009.

anyone able to shed any light on how i might fix this?
 
correct vsync was on and turning it off seems to have solved it (just discovered that after i posted). BUT i turned it on to solve the problem of having a band scrolling up the screen all the time which was driving me mad.

i have a HP LP2475W, I7 at 4.2ghz, 6gb at 1600mhz.

so it seems the lag was caused by vsync but without vsync i have this stupid band moving up the screen. i also notice that the refresh rate in nvidia control panel is always saying 59. i can change it to 60 but then as soon as i go back in there, its on 59 again!!! i am guessing maybe something to do with this is causing the band? the monitor itself says its running a 60 when i go to information but i guess it may be running at 59.5 and rounding it up or something. i have no idea whats going on, never had this with my old 8800
 
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no i cant see it in there.

it did the same thing with my old 8800gtx though windows control panel always saying 59, change it to 60 and go back in and its on 59 again, and i didnt have any scrolling band on the screen with the old card. its obviously not a bad card cos the band isnt there with vsync on. GAH!!
 
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its an lcd, this one doesnt run at 75 only has options for 59 and 60!! (i have another that does but its an old small one). i dont even know why 59 is in the list.
 
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no the line is a band about half inch thick that scrolls from the bottom of the screen to the top then starts again from the bottom.

is this card faulty or what? cos an old 8800 had no problems like this

i have the fps set at 60 to sync it with the netcode but thats really not the issue. i dont pay huge money for the fastest card out there to put up with this sort of crap! shouldnt matter what fps i run it at there shouldnt be strange corrupt bar scrolling up the screen!

yeah i think i saw 59.8 somewhere, but i cant remember where i saw it now!

i just disabled SLI and its still there. i also tried it on my other monitor and its there on that as well so it isnt monitor specific
 
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if thats the case can you explain to me how i have never in 15 years of fps games experienced this before? and how ive had my 8800gtx capped to 60fps on the 60fps monitor for over a year and not seen a single line accross the screen?

im running exactly the same fps on this card as was capped on the old card so unless something is wrong, id surely get the same NO bands on the screen as i had before. i have never run vsync so if that was an issue id have seen it surely?

to have horizontal bands scrolling up the screen just because the monitor fps is close to the games fps is ridiculous in this day and age let alone on the most powerful card you can buy and on a high end 24" lcd.

i have removed the fps cap completely and just let it fly about between 400 and 150 and i THINK the line is still there but its very hard to tell. that doesnt really solve the issue though, sooner or later ill be running games that cant be run at 100+fps even on this card, so they would have ot be capped around 60, you are saying i going to be stuck with this problem again then? crysis warhead might be such a game already, even without fps being capped if it happens to hover around the 60 level im going to be stuck with this again?? ive never heard of this before now.
 
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well if it turns out to be a specific issue with this card then im not ever going near nvidia cards again.

i have NEVER had vsync on, not even in the quake 1 beta. always wanted the high fps.
 
up2nogooduk seems to suggest he had the same sort of problems but not with other cards. ive also not read anything about others having such problems. i spent a crapload of money on this with a view to not having to touch it for the next 3 years and right now its seeming like the most expensive part of the pc is also the worst part.

ive tried it on my old 19" and this lp2475w, more or less the same on both with the cap on so i cant blame the monitor.
 
im actually starting to wonder if its related to sli and these crappy nvidia drivers. ive tried about 5 different drivers now from 181 to the new 190's. there are very irritating problems in tf2 and a bunch of other games in the current 186 and the 185 drivers and aside from the games, i end up with a black background in windows when exiting the games! the 181's screw up windows 7, the 182.08 dont work at all, 182.50 work slightly better but still screw up the background in windows. and the 190's just pretty much cut the framerate in half (for the love of god how much testing does it take to notice the fps is half what it was BEFORE releasing a beta?!?). i wouldnt mind but christ these cards are hardly new now, you'd think they would have got it right by now.

starting to come to the conclusion nvidia are simply incapable of producing good drivers.

im stuck with 182.50 as they seem about the best of a bad bunch at the moment.

edit: nope that crashed on me so back to the dodgy 186.18
 
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lol "user error", clueless much? yeah im a noob that has never seen the inside of a pc before let alone played one of these games.

id love an explanation of how user error even comes into it when its a case of double click a driver install, reboot, double click a game icon, watch fps sitting on half what it was. lol

perhaps you should take your head out of the sand and look around, amazingly there are actually other people with these cards and drivers, and even more amazingly, they dont actually play the same games as you. wow, shocker.
 
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