GTX 570 - so disappointing

Vegeta · 10 Feb 2011 at 12:34

Well in Dirt and Grid your old GPU would have been 60+fps all the time anyways so even if you gain the extra FPS it won't make any difference to smoothness you see on the screen (assuming the CPU is not the bottleneck here)

Bad Company show's a extra 6fps in that link up above so i'm not sure you'll notice that much neither as according to that review a 5870 should run it 64FPS average maxed out at 1920X1200 & 4XAA. You game at 1920X1080 so it should even run faster than that.

P.S i'd do a fresh install as the GTX570 should be faster but like I said before the 5870 may handle the CPU bottleneck better (assuming there is one)

TropicLightning · 10 Feb 2011 at 18:32

Not surprising at all to me. The 5870 is a really under-appreciated over-looked card. Best bang for the buck card at market right now. They have come a long, long, way with the latest drivers and are on a level playing field with the 480/570/6950/6970. It really just comes down to the particular game/s you play.

hdpcgamer · 10 Feb 2011 at 19:08

Although the GTX 570 is the better card overall, IMO I wouldn't have upgraded from a HD 5870 to a GTX570 because the gains are too small.

I would have waited for either the 28nm 7950 /7970 cards from AMD or 670/680 from Nvidia as the performance increase would most likely be significant.

Troezar · 10 Feb 2011 at 19:26

TropicLightning said:
Not surprising at all to me. The 5870 is a really under-appreciated over-looked card. Best bang for the buck card at market right now. They have come a long, long, way with the latest drivers and are on a level playing field with the 480/570/6950/6970. It really just comes down to the particular game/s you play.

5870 looks overpriced right now to me...

Ezyryder · 10 Feb 2011 at 19:30

Troezar said:
5870 looks overpriced right now to me...

They are not a good deal at £200 quid, no.

£150 and that is a different proposition all together... come on Gibbo

^Andy^ · 10 Feb 2011 at 19:42

Ezyryder said:
They are not a good deal at £200 quid, no.

£150 and that is a different proposition all together... come on Gibbo

Not a good deal no, but I guess if you already have one and can't be arsed to sell it then adding a second for crossfire is an option - still not a great move financially but hey each to their own

kristmace · 10 Feb 2011 at 19:53

Ezyryder said:
They are not a good deal at £200 quid, no.

£150 and that is a different proposition all together... come on Gibbo

I was the same with my new 5850. Not great value at £170, but when it was on offer at £125 I snapped it up!

6644kp · 10 Feb 2011 at 20:43

well there was little point in the first place in going from a radeon 5870 to a GTX 570.

You should wait about three to four generations before you upgrade otherwise you will almost certainly be dissapointed with your upgrade.

Predicament · 10 Feb 2011 at 20:59

I don't really see the point of buying a 570.

gbdtil1 · 10 Feb 2011 at 22:05

Predicament said:
I don't really see the point of buying a 570.

is this just spamming the thread or is there a point being made in here. Do you mean as an upgrade or generally a bad purchase. As a bland statement your comments mean nothing!

TropicLightning · 10 Feb 2011 at 22:17

I'm sure he means as an upgrade from the 5870.

I did the same dumbazz thing going from a smokin' fast 5870 to a smokin' fast 6950. No gain that I can tell. Oh well...I've got 2GB of memory now... :rolleyes:

gbdtil1 · 10 Feb 2011 at 22:22

does 4,800 as a graphics score in 3d mark 11 sound about right for a vanilla 570?

TropicLightning · 10 Feb 2011 at 22:28

I'm not a 570 guy, but yes, that sounds about right. If you OC your CPU you should see that come up.

IT Troll · 10 Feb 2011 at 23:20

Sounds a bit low. I would expect 5000+. I get ~5700 at 800/2000.

Predicament · 10 Feb 2011 at 23:31

gbdtil1 said:
is this just spamming the thread or is there a point being made in here. Do you mean as an upgrade or generally a bad purchase. As a bland statement your comments mean nothing!

Pardon my lack of further explanation, I assumed it would be self explanatory.

Seeing as a 6950 (flashed to 6970) beats a 570, consumes less power, and costs £100 less
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/306?vs=292

Fire Wizard · 10 Feb 2011 at 23:57

Predicament said:
Pardon my lack of further explanation, I assumed it would be self explanatory.

Seeing as a 6950 (flashed to 6970) beats a 570, consumes less power, and costs £100 less
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/306?vs=292

Putting the power consumption and the cost to one side for the moment, what you said about the ATI 6970 performing better than the Nvidia GTX 570 isn't true, or it certainly isn't quite as straight forward as you have implied.

Going through those results and specifically concentrating on the gaming benchmarks, the Nvidia GTX 570 seems to perform better than the ATI 6970 in 18 out of the 34 benchmarks, while the ATI card performs better in 15 of them. On one of the benchmarks, they score exactly the same results. Also, from what I can tell, when the Nvidia GTX 570 does perform better than the ATI 6970, it does so by a slightly higher margin compared to when the ATI 6970 performs better.

TropicLightning · 11 Feb 2011 at 00:06

6970 tends to do better at high rez (2560x1600) and heavy heavy eye candy loads, 570 better at 1900x1200 and lighter loads.

WingZero30 · 11 Feb 2011 at 00:11

TropicLightning said:
6970 tends to do better at high rez (2560x1600) and heavy heavy eye candy loads, 570 better at 1900x1200 and lighter loads.

Yup this is what I thought aswell. 2Gb of Vram will definitely help at higher resolutions.

gbdtil1 · 11 Feb 2011 at 12:36

What this thread has brought home is that, despite modest performance gains across most areas, this was a not very well thought out up-grade and I probably should have put the money towards a Sandy Bridge upgrade.

At least my mate got the benefit of a good £100 GFX upgrade!!!!

Really good feedback though guys.

Many thanks

Scougar · 11 Feb 2011 at 12:48

Results don't seem right to me TBH. It 'should' get higher. Are you able to compare results from 5870 and 570 on BFBC2 perhaps? (A more modern game).