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It is irrational to put aside things like power consumption and cost... as they would effect a users purchase.
Although point taken, 570's outperform 6970's in a some tests.
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GTX 570 - so disappointing
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It is irrational to put aside things like power consumption and cost... as they would effect a users purchase.
Although point taken, 570's outperform 6970's in a some tests.
Only measured it via FRAPS and it appears the 570 does have the edge but only by a slim margin. What does seem apparent, however, is that the image quality appeared slightly better with the ATI card than the Nvidia and I do recall an old debate about ATI having the edge in image quality. Does this theory still hold true today? Highly subjective no doubt!
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I absolutely agree about it's important to factor in the power consumption and the cost of the product as well. However, I just wanted to point out that in terms of performance, it wasn't quite as clear cut as you may have said it was.
Quite subjective... and AMD has taken lately to playing games with silly quality adaptive optimisation routines which kinda skew things. If quality bothers you tho (as an nVidia user), you can inf mod the quadro drivers and use them on GeForce cards - seems to increase IQ a bit at a small expense in performance.
Most of the time in actual gaming I don't really notice any difference between them in regards to image quality, although on a highly personal note I find the way nVidia implements AA works better for me - I stop percieving jagged edges while playing games at a lower level of AA with nVidia cards.
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Just go and game and enjoy your new card!
The newer dx 11 titles should show an improvement however.
The newer dx 11 titles should show an improvement however.
I can tell You 100% The rest of Your PC is holding back the GTX570, Yes it does sound strange and unreasonable when it appears to fall short of an older (but still very good 5870)
3D2006 should give over 20,000 (sm2+sm3) WITHOUT CPU SCORE !! about 29000 total
Crysis sadly will not pick up much benchmark wise, compared to what You had or indeed a new 6950/6970
So don't worry You have made a good decision
I am tired of seeing this old power consumption thing, if it is down to your PSU not handling it then fine yes a very vslid point as with the heat as we all know power in = power out, but to try and pass it off as some loss to the running of your home is daft as in the average domestic dwelling you will have appliances spewing watts down the drain!
X38+Q6600 is holding you back & will bottleneck. X38 is what 4 years old now!!!!! You need a Core i7 & decent PSU. GTX570 is a decent card but without a recent CPU/mobo a pointless upgrade.
the upgrade was pointless in the first place why would any go from a 5870 to a GTX570. The difference is small only a 5 to 10 FPS at best and for that you have say sell your 5807 for £150 and buy a £300 GTX 570 a loss of £150.
Also consider you porbably spend £300 to buy the 5870 last year.
I covered all that 2 posts up !
Now how about we ask the question "WHY" logic would dictate if the old card could be stoked fast enough to perform why not the 570 fed up to at least an equivalent performance ??
I can give the Facts but honestly only speculate on the reason, Sadly I don't think a lot of the top Guys bother with this gfx forum anymore as 90% of the time it turns into "Yours is better than mine" ***p
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The gtx570 will be no more cpu limited than the 5870 was by his machine. The fact is the gtx570 is not much of an upgrade from the 5870 it replaced. I think amd drivers have improved 5870 performance a good bit as i am sure it was more than 10% slower than a gtx480 not so long ago but tech power benches at 1920x1200 show the gap to be 10%. This in turn will make the upgrade seem even less noticable.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti/27.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_560_Ti/27.html
This is the closest post of actual constructive advice in this thread.
If you have money to burn and must have the latest at every upgrade point then you really shouldn't be disappointed with slight changes +/- performance wise.
Not sure what HDD you have from your spec (and off topic and besides the point but all the same...) but if you are still on a mechanical you would have been a lot wiser to spend that money on an SSD instead of the gfx card. You would most certainly see improvements then for your £
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So from what I'm gathering going from something like a 5870 to a gtx 570 won't by any means yield massive gains but what about something that's a 'bit' (probably a fair bit tbh) slower that the 5870, like a GTX 280.
Also are we finally seeing 2GB VRAM having a purpose or are you likely to be running 2 graphics cards at 2556*1600 resolutions.
Anyhow, my apologies for going a bit off topic, but can't the OP make a comment on what the actual gaming experience is like? Smoothness and minimum frame rates etc. as I think the GTX 570 is meant to be slightly better than a 5870 in those regards.
Also are we finally seeing 2GB VRAM having a purpose or are you likely to be running 2 graphics cards at 2556*1600 resolutions.
Anyhow, my apologies for going a bit off topic, but can't the OP make a comment on what the actual gaming experience is like? Smoothness and minimum frame rates etc. as I think the GTX 570 is meant to be slightly better than a 5870 in those regards.