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GTX1660 + Old IP35 System = Blank Screen

visibleman

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Morning all,

Recently purchased a Zotac 1660 Twin Fan after my aging GTX260 popped its clogs - overkill for the current system but the plan was to upgrade once the new Ryzen gear hits the shelves.

Obviously my Abit IP35 Pro XE board is ancient but with PCIE being backwards compatible I didn't think there would be a problem. Likewise my Corsair TX650 should offer plenty of power what with the recommendation being 450w for the card.

However the 1660 fails to display a picture once Windows 10 attempts to load the drivers (419.35) - the system will display POST and the initial W10 loading screen but then goes blank.
Without the drivers installed, and/or in Safe Mode, it displays a picture.

I've reset the BIOS (latest stable version); tried the second PCIE slot (I thought it did boot up correctly once but could have been mistaken); connected power to the Abit's additional molex connector on the board; removed all non-essential components in case it was a power issue (could still be); reinstalled the drivers (used DDU to remove before reinstall) multiple times and I'm just about to give a Beta BIOS update a whirl but I'm all out of ideas otherwise.

I did notice that when W10 attempts to load the drivers and the screen goes blank (no signal) that my USB mouse loses power.
From reading around, this could possibly be a power issue??

And from what I understand I can't used previous version of drivers other than 419.35 as that's the only version that supports the card?

Unfortunately I haven't got another (decent wattaged) power supply to try nor another more-up-to-date system to test the card in, so I'm a bit stuffed there.

But has anyone got any other ideas I could try before I RMA/send the card back (or just bite the bullet and upgrade the lot now)?

TL;DR - Was I expecting too much from my aging system? :(

Spec (nothing else powerwise is in the case) -
Q6600 (now stock)
Abit IP35ProXE
8GB Ram - Mixture of Kingston and Crucial
Samsung Evo 850
Corsair TX650
Noctua CPU fan (Thermaltake cooler)
1660 that won't work
 
Balls :(

I couldn't find anything concrete on this other than some AMD cards not working on legacy BIOS's and that most Nvidia cards should be backwards compatible/work on both.

Now just got to decide if I keep the card or return it....

Thanks though gents!
 
Turing still has legacy BIOS support. I've seen quite a few people running them on X58, so I doubt the lack of UEFI is the problem. Definetly give the beta BIOS update a try if you haven't already.
 
@Aretak Beta BIOS resulted in the same unfortunately.
I read similar posts before purchasing on the Geforce forums which is why i thought it'd be fine on my IP35 board.

@FlyingScotsman Was that no output at all or did you manage to get it to display BIOS/POST? Was it a different motherboard in the newer build or just newer processor?

Just to add after the BIOS update, I DDU'd the drivers, stuck the card back in the first PCIE slot (which is full x16) and reinstalled 419.35. As before the installer starts and about a quarter in the screen goes blank/no signal.

Shutdown, placed the card in the second PCIE slot (x4 I believe) and it booted into Windows albeit the card was listed under Device Manager as 'Video Controller VGA compatible'.
Tried to update the driver from there and it attempted to install the driver and then blank/no signal.

Just to confirm, is 419.35 the lowest version of driver I can install? Or is there other versions I could try?

I suspect the card isn't compatible (or it could be duff) but just checking as much off before I call it a day and decide what to do - isn't really the right time to buy Ryzen what with the new stuff in a few months.

Cheers for all the help though :)
 
Sounds like it may just be a specific compatibility issue. Certainly I doubt that anyone at Nvidia is testing Abit motherboards any more. The only thing that may cause slight concern is that failure on driver install can also be a sign of a duff card. Many will work as a basic display adapter and then fail when you install the driver and try to utilise them properly. It's highly unlikely of course given the situation, but it might be worth sticking it in somebody else's machine just to make sure if you do plan to keep it.
 
@Aretak I did manage to hunt out an old HD5450 and with that in the primary PCIE slot and the 1660 in the second, i managed to see the Nvidia drivers install correctly with device manager picking the card up albeit it was asking for a reboot. Once rebooted the 1660 displayed no signal, HD5450 was just blank/black screen (though it had signal apparently) and the mouse/keyboard lost power.

Likewise, i'm starting to think it's a compatibility issue so i think i'll get it shipped back.

Cheers again for all the help though gents :)
 
Does seem like a comparability issue. mobos sometimes need a bios update to work with newer cards but with the age of that mobo I doubt nothing has been done to make them work properly.
 
@ED209 Yup, seems to be. Sending it back and will see about picking up something more appropriate (aka ancient) as a temp solution :D

@Zernath A Ryzen system is the plan although i think it's a bit of the wrong time to buy at the minute hence being slightly hesitant to go down that route. See what AMD do in a few months with the 3000 series.
 
visibleman said:
@Aretak Beta BIOS resulted in the same unfortunately.
I read similar posts before purchasing on the Geforce forums which is why i thought it'd be fine on my IP35 board.

@FlyingScotsman Was that no output at all or did you manage to get it to display BIOS/POST? Was it a different motherboard in the newer build or just newer processor?

Just to add after the BIOS update, I DDU'd the drivers, stuck the card back in the first PCIE slot (which is full x16) and reinstalled 419.35. As before the installer starts and about a quarter in the screen goes blank/no signal.

Shutdown, placed the card in the second PCIE slot (x4 I believe) and it booted into Windows albeit the card was listed under Device Manager as 'Video Controller VGA compatible'.
Tried to update the driver from there and it attempted to install the driver and then blank/no signal.

Just to confirm, is 419.35 the lowest version of driver I can install? Or is there other versions I could try?

I suspect the card isn't compatible (or it could be duff) but just checking as much off before I call it a day and decide what to do - isn't really the right time to buy Ryzen what with the new stuff in a few months.

Cheers for all the help though :)
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Nothing at all displayed, the newer build is a new mobo and cpu.
 
visibleman said:
@Zernath A Ryzen system is the plan although i think it's a bit of the wrong time to buy at the minute hence being slightly hesitant to go down that route. See what AMD do in a few months with the 3000 series.
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The socket isn't going to change, so you could get a Ryzen 7 2700X to start you off, and then upgrade once you've seen if the new offering is worth it.
 
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