Gun crime figures

borichnuke · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:00

My girlfriend is doing a essay on gun crime in London, and needs to find the gun crime figures for London for the last 5 years +. Does anyone here know where they can be found online?

Borich

Ricochet J · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:02

Metropolitan Police website?

borichnuke · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:03

shes tried there

Borich

bigredshark · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:07

I'd suggest googling 'gun crime london' and reading the official PDF which is the first result!

DaveP3@ · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:10

Hi,

As much as it sickens me to type it........

Try here:

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GCN02.htm

HTH,

Dave.

ste_bla · 23 Apr 2008 at 20:45

Maybe www.crimestatistics.org.uk

Le_Petit_Lapin · 23 Apr 2008 at 21:05

Just make the figures up.

If she can't find them, chances are, her tutor wont find them either.

Sankari · 23 Apr 2008 at 21:38

DaveP3@ said:
Hi,

As much as it sickens me to type it........

Try here:

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GCN02.htm

HTH,

Dave.

Gun Control Network said:
Annual Firearms Crime Figures Show Third Consecutive Fall

Sickening!

TheVoice · 23 Apr 2008 at 22:06

If she happens to also want the number of authorised firearms operations, and number of Authorised Firearms Officers, I've got the PDFs handy, needed them for my dissertation. It's all on the Home Office website anyway though.

Dolph · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:07

Evangelion said:
Sickening!

It is when you note the general trend in rising crime and the fact that gun crime wasn't caused by legal gun owners in the first place

Surely if guns were the problem, their illegality would have made murder/robbery/etc go down overall because the key useful weapon wasn't available...

Oh wait...

Schnippzle · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:11

Dolph said:
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Thomas. PLease. · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:17

http://www.gun-control-network.org/IN0408.htm

that is unbeleivable, there is at least a couple of incedents a day. That has certainly opened my eyes.

Dolph · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:18

whatleytom said:
http://www.gun-control-network.org/IN0408.htm

that is unbeleivable, there is at least a couple of incedents a day. That has certainly opened my eyes.

Do remember the severe bias of the source when reading anything on it. I'd suggest reading the NRA's site to balance it out, but I'll probably get flamed by those who think the government banning stuff is a liberal idea :confused:

Also remember that those who support a gun ban claim it's supposed to help prevent these things, yet the guns are already banned and these things are still occuring, which surely shows their argument for the load of old cobblers it's always been...

Feek · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:23

I didn't do it.

Actually, that's fair - I own an FAC so I'm unlikely to have done it. People who hold firearms legally tend to use them responsibly.

Vtec9k · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:30

Sort of true Dolf, but of course nothing like the gun crime per 1000 capita as other countries with laxer gun laws. And looking at the UK I would guess that should we have gun laws like the US we'd see much more firearm related crimes.

It's way more subjective than a simple legal guns = bad statement. Look at Switzerland or Canada compared to the US or South Africa.

As for OP: If she has time then a Freedom of Information Act request to the police would probably get results.

Dolph · 23 Apr 2008 at 23:33

Vtec9k said:
Sort of true Dolph, but of course nothing like the gun crime per 1000 capita as other countries with laxer gun laws. And looking at the UK I would guess that should we have gun laws like the US we'd see much more firearm related crimes.

Not if we went like the more relaxed states in the US, because the high crime states in the USA are those with stricter gun controls. Washington DC has some of the strictest going (although they're about to get stomped on in the supreme court) but also has the highest murder rate. Statistically the safest states to live in within the USA are those who have relaxed gun control and easily avialable concealed carry permits, and there's reasonable evidence that correlation does equal causation from those who have changed their gun laws relatively recently.

Incidentally, why bother with comparing "gun crime" statistics, surely crime stats overall would be better? Unless being murdered with a gun is somehow different to being murdered by another means...