H61(B3)...why not?

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on a shoe-string budget trying to upgrade my aging (2006) Pentium 4 PC - I was looking at upgrading the CPU,RAM,MOBO - I was going to buy a 2nd hand E8400 and new Mobo+ram (2x2Gb 1333Mhz) but saw the prices of a H61(B3) 1155 Gigabyte mobo was same price/cheaper than the 775 one I seen for the E8500 - made me wonder again why is it I had to choose a P67 board for my dads 2500K (over cheaper but compatible variants)..I cant quite remember..

I dont game, just music production and web browsing, the E8400 route meant I could upgrade for around £80.. this is hoping I get an E8400 for £30 on ** no mentioning of competitors ** but I thought if it costs same for a Sandy-bridge/Ivy-Bridge board & same Ram then would I be able to get Sandy/Ivy bridge setup by extending the £30 price tag of the E8400 to the price of Sandy/Ivy Bridge processor? - is this right?

I'll probably just continue with my E8400 venture... I dont really have the money to splash out further...I just wanted to know if it was an option..I remeber when I built my dads Core-i5 2500K for him we were advised to get nothing less than a P67 (which was £80 cheapest) - but I cant remember why..we did overclock it...was it for support for that?

thanks
 
sorry will remove that now

SATA drives - I guess I will just go with E8400 but then I was just getting the cheapest ASRock 775 board, will that have OC abilitys for the E8400?

I use Ableton Live 8 DAW with a lot of plugin synths, mind these can be frozen (temporarily made into WAV file) to conserve CPU - O'C would be nice but not necessary , the 45nm E8400 @ 3Ghz over 2 cores (1333Mhz/6Mb) should be good enough for Ableton

my budget is £80-£100 to upgrade the memory, motherboard and CPU - all second hand I dont mind!

thanks
 
snadge said:
sorry will remove that now

SATA drives - I guess I will just go with E8400 but then I was just getting the cheapest ASRock 775 board, will that have OC abilitys for the E8400?

I use Ableton Live 8 DAW with a lot of plugin synths, mind these can be frozen (temporarily made into WAV file) to conserve CPU - O'C would be nice but not necessary , the 45nm E8400 @ 3Ghz over 2 cores (1333Mhz/6Mb) should be good enough for Ableton

my budget is £80-£100 to upgrade the memory, motherboard and CPU - all second hand I dont mind!

thanks
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i just sold a i3 2120, 1155 mobo and 8gb of ram for 110. you should aim higher then 775
you could get an 1156 i5 set up for that cash
 
Dave0w said:
i just sold a i3 2120, 1155 mobo and 8gb of ram for 110. you should aim higher then 775
you could get an 1156 i5 set up for that cash
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I could? which one?

edit: been looking an i could get i3 5xx if I was lucky on a bid and same with a 1156 mobo, there not many 1156 mobos on ** No competitor mentioning ** cheap..
 
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Like the poster above said he'd sold, go for something of at least i3 2100, 8GB and 1155 motherboard for not much more than £100 if you look second hand.

If you're buying from OCUK then I just bought some bits for a £100 build for my kids PC and managed to scrape together a Celeron G540, H61 and 4GB DDR3 for £85 delivered. A touch more would get you 8GB ram, and a Sandybridge Pentium.
 
SouthEastBlue said:
Like the poster above said he'd sold, go for something of at least i3 2100, 8GB and 1155 motherboard for not much more than £100 if you look second hand.

If you're buying from OCUK then I just bought some bits for a £100 build for my kids PC and managed to scrape together a Celeron G540, H61 and 4GB DDR3 for £85 delivered. A touch more would get you 8GB ram, and a Sandybridge Pentium.
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is that Celeron a Sandy-Bridge celeron? if so whats the differences between it and the Pentium?

where can I look for 2nd hand parts? (without getting warned/banned for mentioning 3rd party sites) on here?

also, would that G540 beat an over-clocked E8400 ?
 
Yeah the G540 is a Sandybridge Celeron dual core, the main difference from the Pentium models as far as I know is 1MB less cache (2MB vs 3MB), and slightly slower speed.

No idea how it stacks up against an old E8400, although I read somewhere the i3 2100 at 3.1ghz is faster than an E8400 at 4Ghz and heard it being about the same as an older 1156 i3 overclocked to 3.8Ghz, but the Celeron processors run at lower speeds with the one I bought at 2.5Ghz so I'm not sure. I only needed it for a very basic media/gaming PC which I won't be putting together until I'm back from work on Friday so I can't assist any further. :)
 
@ SouthEastBlue - ok, many thanks for your input, really do appreciate it, I have checked on CPU-Benchmark and the E8400 (2,224) is "just" below the G540 (2,330) but even though it states things like E8400 @ 3Ghz Iam pretty sure that is just the reported 'stock' speed which means a lot of the E8400 results could be from 4Ghz OC'd ones!! meaning the score should be 'X' lower

the current CPU i use scores a whopping 480 hehe , its a 90nm Pentium 524 from 2006 - 3.06Ghz with HyperThreading , 16Kb L1 cache and 1Mb L2 cache - Im sure its bottle-necked with this single channel 400Mhz (200Mhz) DDR1 RAM

someone else suggested the G540 elsewhere...

thanks again
 
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