Had a crash...

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GlasgowTitan

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...Well more of been crashed into. I was sitting behind a 206 at traffic lights in the inside lane of a 2 lane road and as we pulled away the 206 pulled into the outside lane (without indicating) and going quite slow. As we left the lights the 2 lanes follow a quick right-left S shape and he was by now in the outside lane with my front bumper just about level with his passenger side rear quarter. As we go round the right hand curve no drama, the left hand curve however Mr. 206 decides not to follow the white lines in a curve - but drive straight on into my lane and my front driver's side wing! :eek:

I could see he was moving into my lane so slammed on brakes and the horn at same time but still didn't swerve away and hit me. I had stopped by this point but he just kept going! Had to chase him up the road to the next set of traffic lights before he stopped and put his hazards on!

I google mapped a picture to see what I mean, I'm the green line and Mr. 206 is the red....

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I have a dent in the front wing and scuffed bumper so need that fixed, best to go through insurance or sort it ourselves - he wont pay or take responsibility!!!!! I think it would be a lot cheaper to do ourselves and dont want to go to insurance in case they dont find it fully his fault....
 
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Hmmm, you're not going to want to hear this, but without any independent witnesses I doubt it will be found to be fully their fault. Damage to the rear of their car and front of yours could easily have been caused by you driving into them.

You'll have to weigh it all up, but it may work out cheaper in the long run to pay for the damage to your own car yourself provided he isn't going to claim anything. He probably knows this too, which is why he won't pay or take respobsibility.
 
What does the OP drive? The loss in value of the car because of doing a mediocre job might be more than the insurance difference depending on the OP's circumstances. Give helphire a call, and see if they'd take the 'job'. If they do then it might be fair to say that his insurance company agree that it's the other drivers fault. You don't have to go with helphire, but you'd at least get some impartial advice.
 
Unfortaunate, but that happens all the time in Glasgow as you probably know. You either should have smoked him off the lights, or held back and gave him room. Hiding in his blind spot such that he /could/ hit you is a disaster zone. Possibly horn before he made the manoeuvre also, might have helped. As for what to do now it's happened, not sure but I would have given him a right bollocking. It's one of my pet peeves.
 
BigglesPiP said:
An Audi and I came unstuck with that one the other day in Lancaster, both gunned it off the lights to go for the 1 exit lane. I yielded, being on the left.
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Well, to perform a 'smoking' operation you have to be aware that that can be a possibile outcome and act accordingly (as it appears you did).

To enhance chances of outcome 'in your favour'

1. position you car well ahead of the other car, even over the line, giving a body language sign that you want to be away first, and look, I'm already in front of you. ('boy racer time may see this as a challenge, so try the next method for them)

2. Or position car further back, like 1/2 car length or more, and accel before the lights change/other car starts moving so your speed is greater by the time you get to 'the line'

Each of these have issues as well to look out for.
 
That junction is a bit weird. The overhead map doesn't show that the road kind of meanders up and down a bit there and when raining it is not always clear that it is two lanes. Unfortunately you came up against someone who had no idea what was going on and from the sounds of it doesn't want to take responsibility for driving into your lane.
 
BigglesPiP said:
So you undertook a car which was displaying poor lane discipline? Your one hope is the fact he changed lanes into you.
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How did you interpret that from the original post. To me it looks like the 206 pulled away, the OP stayed in his lane with the 206 taking the racing line resulting in the crash, so how is that undertaking?

EDIT: The interesting question is why the 206 driver never stopped after the crash?
 
Jokester said:
The damage isn't on the front though, it's on his side.
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You're right, but this kind of damage could have been caused by the other driver maintaining his lane and the OP drifting lanes and touching the other car. I still maintain that without witnesses, where the damage to your own car is forward of the passenger compartment and the other driver's rearwards of the passengers, the insurance companies will go 50/50 at best.

Not that I condone such behaviour, but it sounds like the other driver will claim something along these lines and the location of the damage on both cars sounds like it wouldn't conclusively support the OP's story. **** drivers and insurance companies make me sad. :(
 
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