Had the TDCI Focus remapped

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Hey all.
I read a few threads on remaps - Some on here and some elsewhere.
I rang up elephant, with the policy I have now taken out when I was 23, 6 years driving, 2 years ncb, no points or claims and they wanted £180 extra on my policy for the remap even though there was just a 4 months left on the policy. The car is a 57 reg 2.0 TDCI Focus Pre-facelift but no DPF :).
I decided to leave it for until I had 3 years ncb, but then I found a cheap (already reset) bluefin for £189 delivered and after an arguement on the phone with elephant they agreed to add it on for just £50 until the policy ends.

This is the 'claimed' power graph. I have no reason to think it is made up but I know many of remaps just go for big maximum hp gains. A remap really isn't about that, it is about getting the power in earlier and with a load more mid-range pull.
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/Focus20tdci136.pdf

The car feels so much better and picks up much more easily from idle. From 1000-2500rpm the car feels like it did before but with the same eagerness 150rpm (ish) lower than it did before. By 3500rpm the turbo is really howling and there is loads more power. The car has done 78000 miles on the original clutch/injectors/turbo/exhaust and it runs fine with no misfires or clutch slip. Only time will tell with how the engine copes with the extra power but so far I feel it is a fantastic performance upgrade for the price.

The purpose of this thread is just to say thanks for the help given to me by OCUK motors.
 
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maccapacca said:
expect your clutch to go though
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It might go a few thousand miles earlier, but IME they rarely just fail without warning.
The car has been family owned since it was 6 months old and has been well looked after.

A friend with a remapped 1.9 tdi 150 mk4 Golf thrashes the **** out of his and it is on the original clutch at 100k despite him ragging it for 60k.
 
Justintime said:
Not a huge remap but my old 06 320d did an extra 34k miles with me on a remap to 200 and that was at about 48k already on the original clutch, still going well when i traded it in.
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If the current clutch can take the power and is not slipping then it shouldn't cause it to fail any earlier than without a remap.
If I was running to much power and causing it to slip, or when it does start to fail and starts to slip, then the remap will induce earlier failure.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
If the current clutch can take the power and is not slipping then it shouldn't cause it to fail any earlier than without a remap.
If I was running to much power and causing it to slip, or when it does start to fail and starts to slip, then the remap will induce earlier failure.
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Yea but you're on a forum where diesels are satans creation and certain people will find something, anything at all about them to harp on about.
 
I had a new clutch fitted before I had my Punto JTD remapped. Shame it would judder from 2,000rpm. Had it removed as I couldn't even use all the power.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
It might go a few thousand miles earlier, but IME they rarely just fail without warning.
The car has been family owned since it was 6 months old and has been well looked after.

A friend with a remapped 1.9 tdi 150 mk4 Golf thrashes the **** out of his and it is on the original clutch at 100k despite him ragging it for 60k.
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Really depends on how you define thrashing. There is nothing wrong with giving it some beans with a warm engine under the right conditions.
Abuse it from cold, rag it from standing at every traffic light and floor it at 1000/1500rpm every now and then and the clutch/ DMF will die earlier than a non remapped car.
 
Remaps will just throw more fuel in. Smoke and pot levels will increase which is why OEMs don't just wind it up as you get much dirtier emmissions as well as impact injector life( thy are working hard and runnin hotter) They go for more elegant solutions like piston swirl design and higher fuel pressures.

Remapping is a dirty but effective tool for getting more power
 
as long as you don't drive like a tube your clutch will be fine,

put 150k on a remapped Vectra cdti 150 with a standard clutch without issues
 
Cristian said:
Really depends on how you define thrashing. There is nothing wrong with giving it some beans with a warm engine under the right conditions.
Abuse it from cold, rag it from standing at every traffic light and floor it at 1000/1500rpm every now and then and the clutch/ DMF will die earlier than a non remapped car.
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I agree The car is in very good nick and ith the map I will take it easy when cold and the last minute before turning th engine off.

Simon said:
Remaps will just throw more fuel in. Smoke and pot levels will increase which is why OEMs don't just wind it up as you get much dirtier emmissions as well as impact injector life( thy are working hard and runnin hotter) They go for more elegant solutions like piston swirl design and higher fuel pressures.

Remapping is a dirty but effective tool for getting more power
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It is a bluefin so I will stick it back to stock for MOTs and servicing just to be safe. My PhD is in sustainability and in Europe we are obsessed with what a car emits and the mpg.
 
Diesel clutches are usually massively overspecced for a lone driver anyway. They will be specked for towing uphill with a car full of passengers. It's not like they are on the limit pre remap.
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
I agree The car is in very good nick and ith the map I will take it easy when cold and the last minute before turning th engine off.


It is a bluefin so I will stick it back to stock for MOTs and servicing just to be safe. My PhD is in sustainability and in Europe we are obsessed with what a car emits and the mpg.
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Soot and nitrous oxide emissions will go through the roof. Soot due to the 'less complete' combustion meaning more HC emmissions. Higher pressures and temperatures in the combustion chamber will mean NOx emmissions are much higher too.

The purpose of EGR is to drop the combustion pressures and temperatures to below the point where nitrous oxides form very easily, this is due to the presence of inert gases slowing the combustion process
 
Simon said:
Soot and nitrous oxide emissions will go through the roof. Soot due to the 'less complete' combustion meaning more HC emmissions. Higher pressures and temperatures in the combustion chamber will mean NOx emmissions are much higher too.

The purpose of EGR is to drop the combustion pressures and temperatures to below the point where nitrous oxides form very easily, this is due to the presence of inert gases slowing the combustion process
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Wat are you proposing I do? Put i8t back to stock a fw days before the MOT? I am a bit confused :p.
 
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