Haf X or 800D

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New build and I have the choice of one of the two cases

I have two PSU's and a dual loop with either a 360 (thin) plus 120 or 120 x 2, or 240 rad.

altho the 800D has more space, I think I would find it easier with doing less modding, to be able to fit everything in the haf :/


plan is
push pull on top with the 360 rad for both cases

then main psu in default psu spot for both cases (psu is only 160/150 long)

Obsidian:

Second PSU on the bottom where dual HDD cage is (would require removing this cage... =/

Rad between the two psus with a 240 or two 120s sitting on the bottom of the case with fans on top.

Both side panels will have blow holes cut into them for one 120 fan on the window side panel (bottom right) and two on the solid panel (bottom left)
I've seen the above done in a previous project and it looks pretty decent.


HAF,


Second PSU infront of the main PSU.


240 rad mounts standing up straight on the 230mm fan with an additional two 120 fans mounted on the rad. this would ofc involve removing the entire hdd cage.




So which would you do?


Also, has anyone removed either of the above mentioned HDD cages, if so what did you use, how difficult easy was it to do?

Thanks =D
 
i have the hafx and its great:) id diffinitly recommend it exellent airflow especially for graphic cards loads of room inside also...
 
I've been dismantling my 700D, its fairly easy to take apart, just chisel the rivets with a screwdriver. I'm struggling to see how you could fit 2 psus and a 240 rad in the bottom though, unless both psus are like pretty damn short.
 
Some photos of my 800D, now using a single 580 GTX.

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Bubo said:
I've been dismantling my 700D, its fairly easy to take apart, just chisel the rivets with a screwdriver. I'm struggling to see how you could fit 2 psus and a 240 rad in the bottom though, unless both psus are like pretty damn short.
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Try drilling the head off the rivet mate it comes away so much easier.
 
I started with the 800d then moved to hafx. i have never looked back. the 800d has very bad cooling. no air going in. go with the hafx dropped my temps by loads.
 
DirtyJester said:
Try drilling the head off the rivet mate it comes away so much easier.
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As long as you can get to the rivet chiseling easier than drilling in my opinion. 9 times of of 10 with drilling you end up just spinning the rivet before it has drilled through. And of course you need the room to get the drill in line with the rivet which is not always possible with internal rivets, whereas you can come at them from an angle with a chisel. Plus I bet I could chisel 10 rivets faster than you could drill them :) Saying this I did drill the one I couldn't access to whack with a screwdriver.
 
Thanks all for the input =)


the reson I believe i can fit all three is because the 800d is 610 wide

each power suppy is only 150 and 160 long resepectively. thats 310 and the two 120 days would be 240 long or the single 240 rad would be about 260 long, either way that still leaves 40/50mm of room for cabling.

So I'm not saying it will be easy, it will absolutely be a tight fit, but in theory, it should be possible.


Thanks =)
 
How much into metal work are you? You try to do what I am doing with a 700D. I am mounting a 240 rad vertically in the space where the top and bottom hard drives currently go. This entailed removing part of the main horizontal dividing panel with a dremel and the various hard drive holding plates by knocking rivets out. The rad fans are facing the case side so I am going to cut the side panel to put a grill in, the front of the case will be untouched. I've made a bracket to fit the hard drives under the fan in the dividing panel. With a bit more extensive dremeling you could even fit a 360 rad in this way, you would lose the bottom 2/3 5 1/4" bays however. My second pump and res will also fit in this compartment.

Depending on how many hard drives you have I guess you could easily get both power supplies in the bottom compartment if you tried this.

I'm not sure how doable this would be with an 800D though as the top hard drive compartment is radically different to the 700D, but imo the 700D is superior to the 800D due to this fact, less phaff and more space to mod.

You can of course also mount the 240 rad in the bottom compartment on its side, again with the fans blowing out the case side. This may leave you enough room to put the psu on its side right along side it, depends how wide the psu is. I was going to fit my rad like this originally but a PA120.2 was about 5mm too wide to stand on its side, and I didn't want to lay it flat as I didn't like the way that would exhaust hot air into the case.
 
If you want to remove the rivets, just drill the head off than the rest should simply pop out with a gentle tap with a drift. Only thing is the shavings, but get a mate to help you with some hoover action (on the rivet, no man love).
 
HAF X if cooling performance absolute priority, just try not to look at it...fugly.

If you don't need all that air flow, and you got the cash the 800D all the way. Topq uality design imho
 
nrenz123 said:
If you want to remove the rivets, just drill the head off than the rest should simply pop out with a gentle tap with a drift. Only thing is the shavings, but get a mate to help you with some hoover action (on the rivet, no man love).
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Will that not damage the case though?


Also what drill bits would i need? 1.5m titanium i would have thought?

Thanks
 
Went with the 800D

Going to be cutting out blow holes in the side panels, something like Cool Breeze project I've seen =)
 
I have the HAF X and its a beast, all my components are cool. Keep in mind you have a spare slot for a fan at the top that is not provided with the case so you might want to buy another one if you do decide to get the HAF X they are about 16 with free p&p from ebay for the official coolermaster 120mm ones :)
 
For watercooling definatly the 800D, the triple rad cut as standard with the space for more potential modding makes it an excellent choice.

HAF X is ok for watercooling but much more suited to air cooling, hence the name:
- High
- Air
- Flow
 
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